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Kenneth Haugland wrote: I'm don't really have a Master degree in English,
Neither do I 
Kenneth Haugland wrote: It seems like we're supposed to hack each other to pieces by spelling mistakes
In Spain we say: If you give, don't be surprised when you receive  
Have a nice day 
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I had .. 
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Of course the best option is always to pass it to someone who already knows it but usually it's not really an option.
So my best approach is to learn the basics and start. Keep learning as I go.
Programming is pretty much the same on any language anyway! 
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Or at least you will be trained before you will be tasked to maintain it. This is the common sense.
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And who told you your manager ever met with 'common sense'? You got hired to solve code-problems, this is a code-problem, solve it!
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Man, this is so so so true
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I know! I was there endless times...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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No necessarily true...
It may be handed down to you because the person left the company and you the only logical person to fill his spot. You have to take over all the things that he wrote.
I had such an experience where I had to take over someone else's position and inherit their code. They had a couple of perl scripts which they used for doing some of the automation. I had to first learn perl by myself before I could maintain/change these scripts. This was however my own initiative and had no support/input from any managers.
Point I want to make is nobody cared whether I could do the work or not because they didn't know what was handed down to me. At the end of the day they just care about the results. i.e. is the work done? yes/no
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."
<< please vote!! >>
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You gotta love the ivory tower you live in! 
Wait until you get out in the "real world" - have you got some surprises coming! 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I have 8+ years of experience, thank you very much. I guess I was lucky to land in the right place where common sense is a norm, and not a rare treasure.
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13xforever wrote: I guess I was lucky to land in the right place where common sense is a norm
Even if your email is seriously slow!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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years ago I was given a FORTRAN IV system to add new features to - I had never seen the language in my life. The next project I was given was in a subset of PL/1 which I had also never seen - I went to the local library to get a book on PL/1 (gosh, the days before t'internet) and the only one they had was a Fortran to PL/1 guide - which was rather handy
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I expect an employee to give an estimation how much effort it is to get the task done. If it involves selfstudy/formal training is at the employee to ask for. I don't know what you expect from your boss: thinking all details through for you before daring to ask you if you might wish to take this or that task? 
With this attitude you won't get far in the universe I live in... You grow with the challenges! Make the best out of it!
Cheers
Andi
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Thanks for sharing that dream.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Where are you from? And how much is it paid a good programmer in there?
If the second answer is better than my actual salary, I'll move to your place without objections. I would really love to be trained each time I have to fix anyone-else's piece of sh1t.
This is what I am used to in the industry:
if (mode_busines == true)
common_sense = false;
else
common_sense = VERY_RARE;
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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He didn't say you'd actually receive the training though.
In practice what usually happens is that you tell the boss you need X, Y and Z to do the work. He comes back with you can get trained in X if there's any training budget left but it won't be until next year. Oh and we need it fixed by lunchtime.
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Wow, way to select the precise date to stop sending the notifications, Code Project, looks like I've missed the holy war.
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Switch to another company  .............[May be I will get some Hike  ]
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The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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what if you get similar kind of work in your next company also?
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Sharath C V wrote:
what if you get similar kind of work in your next
company also?
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koolprasad2003 wrote: Switch to another company .............[May
be I will get some Hike
]
Give the current employer an opportunity. Just because a hypocrite manager does something out of his temerity, you don't need to ditch the opportunities from the organization as well.
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