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"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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A spammer wrote: Should you suffer from drooping skin as well as dimply skin When i very advocate making use of [redacted]! This specific 100% healthy firming creme shades as well as pulls your skin by employing well known elements to offer you some sort of head to toe of the feet makeover.
It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Keith Barrow wrote: It rubs the lotion on its skin.
Or else it gets the hose again.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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10th kick applied.
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May the hamsters pack him and move him away!
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Actually, I believe a pack of packrats will be better suited for that job
Alright, move along now
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Lately I've seen lots of articles either published or in moderation queue, which have been constructed by taking texts from other sources. Often the sources have been mentioned but my question is, how much authors own text should be included in the text and how to measure if the amount is sufficient?
For example if an article contains just copy-pasted text from three sources, I'd think that should be reported as plagiarism even if the sources have been mentioned.
Your comments please.
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No, this is not plagiarism by definition. In such cases, the value of the publication can be questioned. Indeed, if some publication contains mostly the quoted material, it can be considered as not original and, under certain conditions, not appropriate. Article can be removed, and so on, but the author cannot be accused of plagiarism in any way.
"How much author's own text should be included" cannot be a valid measure even for estimation of the value of the publication. If you question an article, you can consider it as, say, a defending a dissertation. The author should convince people in some points, original though, something. In principle, it can be done in a very few words.
Anyway, we face here real shameless, even "naive" plagiarism, which is much more important to block. Plagiarism is a form of cheating, based on the lie on the origin of some code or text, lack of proper attribution; that's as simple as that.
—SASergey A Kryukov
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Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov wrote: Anyway, we face here real shameless, even "naive" plagiarism, which is much more important to block. And by a Platinum level author who is able to publish his articles without going through the moderation queue. It is a good thing this is a rare occurrence.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I see your point. I think I used the word plagiarism too loosely. My point is that if the author has posted an article/tip/whatever containing mainly copied text with no actual value adding content, in my opinion this is inapropriate. Actually regardless how many sources there is (1,2,3,...)
The line between legimite and abusive post is sometimes very thin and I'm trying to clarify it to myself
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At this point, we set aside more formal notion of plagiarism and are discussing the fuzzy notion of article quality and suitability for publication. Here I agree with your. Don't get me wrong: I would agree if you say that the article can be abusive even without plagiarism, even the legitimately quoted and attributed material can make abusive content. This is what you ware talking about in first place. But that's why we have the filtering by moderation and peer review system. If you wanted to say that the filter mesh should be thinner, I would also agree.
—SASergey A Kryukov
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Mika Wendelius wrote: For example if an article contains just copy-pasted text from three sources, I'd think that should be reported as plagiarism even if the sources have been
mentioned. Copying from a single source is called plagiarism, copying from multiple source is called research. - Anonymous
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thatraja wrote: copying from multiple source is called research
The amount of research done is surpising nowadays.
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My point of view:
Copying text without clear indication is always plagiarism. It is not enough to add the source links at the bottom of the article when it is not clear which parts are copied.
Short sequences should be formatted as citation naming the source. Blocks of text may use a header indicating the source.
With large amounts of text from one source there may be also copyright issues.
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Agree. This way the copied portion is always clearly presented.
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