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I was working for BT at the time in Matelsham research labs as a contractor and got to play with 2mb internet before anyone else i knew.
MS-Access, bit of Excell, SQL-Server 6.5 and i think it was VB4, maybe VB5 was my field at the time so maybe i needed to be more into AS400's or something like COLBOLT to have got any offers.
Also used NT4 server, didn't like XP98, too soft for me at the time
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Try dedicated DCS. These were all proprietary systems. Not fun. Lucrative, but not fun.
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I have been known to work on Simens PLC Controls but they didn't have dates and just used ladders.
Looks like the other poster nailed it with banking and old colbolt systems and i was not working in banking at the time using anything like that.
What systems were you working on ?
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Plant reading systems - oil fields.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: It's as though people feel cheated because power plants didn't explode. Well, yes. We were promised the apocalypse. Food, water, fuel and illegal weapons were hoarded, because it was necessary to survive.
Nothing significant happened.
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harold aptroot wrote: Nothing significant happened. It would indeed have been more fun if they had not given a warning a year in advance.
Now, since when does mass-media describe a technical issue in a non-hyping and technically correct (read 'boring') way? No new Y2k bug for some time - it'll be all about cyberwars, cyberterrorists and cybercrime now.
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Given the state of the world, it does not seem like something to worry about
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Dr Gadgit wrote: You must be one of the few people to get any work from fixing the Y2K bugs because me and my freinds didn't as much as we would have like too and most people today regard the Y2K trouble as one big hoax. You must be here to make some friends, calling my work a hoax
Dr Gadgit wrote: switching over to Euro's kept ten times more people in work than Y2K ever did, myself included So you counted them?
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"So you counted them"
No need to count to know we have more ants in the world than people.
I did not say your work was a hoax, guess someone must had harcoded "19" into to programs somewhere in the world but it's not like the number moved from being a INT to a Long or anything.
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Dr Gadgit wrote: No need to count to know we have more ants in the world than people. Ehr.. it is not about ants. If you claim that more money is made on the introduction of the Euro (for some merely a change in Windows-settings) than the Y2k bug cost, then I expect something to back that claim.
Dr Gadgit wrote: I did not say your work was a hoax No, it was just implied.
Dr Gadgit wrote: guess someone must had harcoded "19" into to programs somewhere in the world but it's not like the number moved from being a INT to a Long or anything. Keep guessing, if you do it long enough you'll be right sometime.
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I gave you the logic for my statement and I didn't have to switch anything on windows come 1/1/2001 or posted any of the millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam.
Now I am not alone in my thoughts in Y2K but admit i am on my own about saying we are not running out of ipv4 addresses so why not take a crack at that one to keep things a bit more on topic !
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Dr Gadgit wrote: I gave you the logic for my statement Yes, by stating you need not count ants.
Dr Gadgit wrote: I didn't have to switch anything on windows come 1/1/2001 or posted any of the millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam. Correct, it is a statement without argumentation. Might be because there is no Y2k1 bug.
Dr Gadgit wrote: why not take a crack at that one to keep things a bit more on topic ! Because you made the connection in your first post. I also already gave my argumentation on that one.
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Your words-smith does not impress me so yes, anything you say !
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Dr Gadgit wrote: Your words-smith does not impress me
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Dr Gadgit wrote: millions of pages on the internet to say that Y2K was a scam. Just shows how many people have no understanding of what the issue was. Indeed how could it be a scam, since no one made any illegal money from it. And even now we see examples of programmers writing code that is not Y2K compliant: largely because they do not understand some of the basic issues.
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Selling nuclear bunkers is not a scan, not illegal and many of the people posting about Y2K being a scam are professionals so would you like to provide this "understanding" about 2000 please because computers tend to count in chunks of eight bits and 2000 is not like year 1024 or 2048.
Having started life using a computer with only 48k I understand the need to save space when cooking code and i get that someone may have wrote code like
if (Year NOT StartWith '19') chuck an error 'Bad Date';
But the amount of code still in use that used a number system broken by tripping over 100, given 8 bits was low to say the least.
Wiki says
"Storage of a combined date and time within a fixed binary field is often considered a solution, but the possibility for software to misinterpret dates remains because such date and time representations must be relative to some known origin. Rollover of such systems is still a problem but can happen at varying dates and can fail in various ways"
So we are not out of danger yet i see so should i buy the bomb shelter or should i reverse engineer this to combine a date/time value to fit 32 bits, allow for leap years to predict the next date ?
Credit default swaps and never ending printing is the danger to the banking systems of the world as is hacking when microsoft advises anyone with Skype to just open up all the outbound ports in the firewall but i am yet to read anything to think that Y2K was not a little over done.
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I started on mainframe computers that had only 16K; however that has no relevance to this discussion. The fact remains that there were systems (I worked on some of them) that would, and some still did, have serious problems when the century rolled over. I am actually still not clear why you think it was a scam, it was just something that happened.
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Dr Gadgit wrote: switching over to Euro's kept ten times more people in work than Y2K ever did, myself included So you experienced the alternative timeline and then decided to go with this one?
Such statements are produced by politicians in an effort to justify and potentially window dress their decisions.
Exception thrown: No data available for Euro-free Europe since 01.01.2002.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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VB4 I think we were using at the time had no trouble with "2000" dates and SQL-Server 6.5 (god it had some bugs back then) worked fine too with the switch
Data held in the database as french franks needed converting as did front ends that didn't show the euro symbol, both need work in my Quantum "alternative timeline"
I am no fan of the Euro and the "EC" mark is not a sign of quality or saftey but of a monopoly
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Dr Gadgit wrote: VB4 I think we were using at the time had no trouble with "2000" dates and SQL-Server 6.5 (god it had some bugs back then) worked fine too with the switch Thing is - these were fairly modern (at the time). Y2K was about systems that had been around since the 60s/70s (even some from the 80s). When they were written, it was never envisaged that they would survive as long, and that's where Y2K came from.
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Yes i think you are right with that reply and i was not working in banking at the time so maybe this is why i see things difrent to some people here.
The closes i got to Colbolt was a weekend when someone working for me tipped a cup of coffey over a keyboard that was conected to a huge machine that cost millions back in the early 80's and i bricked myself because you could not pop down the road to pick one of these things up like today.
Well we cleaned the keyboard in the bath, dried it slow in the oven as you do, chucked it back in and that was that The office did not need any heating, the computer did that for them.
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Fair enough, if you based that statement on a specific requirement at that time. Exception handled
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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"Exception handled"
Like it.
Just because physics is all based on maths, Human brains not only work like computers but today I am told can even be read by computers and DNA is computer code it does not mean you are living in sim-city
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