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Sun don't make you pay $$$ for some their software which is free. All software should be free or very small priced or not everybody will have it.
Also Sun don't have lots of bugs in there software like M$ do. M$ is the worst software by a long distance. Sun has softwares that run on non-M$ operating systems so they can't crash!!
Need I mention more?
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I tell you what, you persuade Sun to give away its hardware (which is its primary business) and I'll get Bill to give away his software (which is his primary business).
Sounds fair to me 
Good luck
Michael
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Hardware is too much as well. All these companies that make such inferior products should make them very cheaper or not everybody will have them! What's the point in spending $$$ making something if you only see it to 5 people? If it is free of very cheap then it is better for the consumer (who is always right) which then gives benefit back to the company as they will have more of customers.
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Forgive me for obviously missing the point, but what is this benefit you talk of that occurs when a company has more customers, yet these cusomers do nothing for the company?
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All software should be free or very small priced or not everybody will have it.
you've opened my eyes !!!
from now on we'll stop to charge our customers if they want to use our software...
so every company that needs it, could use it for free and greatly reduce their expenses !
and don't forget my profit by doing this: i will live longer and more healthy because i'll have to sell my car (i wouldn't be able to afford it anymore) and thus i'd have to walk to the place i'm working (so i have some more fitness training in the morning).
in addition i would have to get a new job to pay the rent of my apartment or to buy me food. maybe i could find some outdoor work... then i could go outside, after 10h sitting in front of my computer, and do some physical activities like collecting garbage or cutting lawn in a park... yep, this would be really good for my lame spine...
cheers, case
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It's worth to mention here that according to the GNU GPL the "free software" is "about the freedom, not the price". You still get the money and you can keep your car.
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True, but this guy's views dictate that he beleives all software (and now hardware) should be free. I think that is what Mike was refering to.
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Even I could do better than them!
I love it when people get so cornered they need to throw out that line in defence. If you can do better, DO SO. People will move to your product if it is truely better. Of course, you wouldn't make any money off it because you believe all software should be free? (from your reply below).
And what do you do for a living? It obviously can't be any aspect of software development if you have that view.
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OS/2 is dead and BeOS too... 
and DOS was outdated since its first release...
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True, but should OS/2 have died? BeOS was doomed from the start because it came along WAY too late to compete with Microsoft, and nobody wrote any drivers for it.
Anyway, the operating system is not the subject of this poll, so maybe we should just ignore this entire thread until Chris gives us a reason to argue about OS's.
It's my fault for starting this thread, because I mis-read the poll. My apologies for leading everyone astray. However, the fact that so many have responded merely illustrates my abilities as a born leader.
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I voted DR Dos , just so that I could write a comment. I don't care who has the upper hand on the desk top as long as our best interests as users/developers are served .I have no way of knowing who will be best at that in a few years time .
My hovercraft is full of eels.
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The wheels fell off my toothbrush.
Giles
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One in six would prefer, that there where many different OS'es. I can understand this as a reseller, I can understand it as a consumer, but as developer I would prefer only one OS.
As it is now, where the desktop market is dominated by M$, it is hard enough to make your applicaitons compatible with the different variants of Windows OS'es.
Christian Skovdal Andersen
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And Microsoft is thrilled that you have to develop for all their different OSs. It keeps you busy with the Windows side of things and gives them a reason to introduce yet another OS (WinXP) in the name of "unification".
Regards,
Alvaro
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XP? that's old news. in six months, everyone will be worrying about Win-2002.
-c
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Smaller Animals Software, Inc.
http://www.smalleranimals.com
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"M$" yeah ok...I have a really hard time believing you could write just one version of an application for linux and be sure it would be compatible with 95+% of the linux boxes. Windows is pretty darn flexible when it comes to compatability...I have been impressed each year.
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You should actually try some ?NIX programming. Not only do you have a much better chance of writting an application compatible across all Linux boxes, but it could quite easily be compatible with *most* versions of Windoze to as well.
Windows  flexible  easily impressed ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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My first computer was Sinclair ZX Spectrum, and I LOVED it  . I've read that Linus Torvaldson's favourite computer was Sinclair QL. Maybe he should have sticked to it, instead of making Linux.
I vote pro drink
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My first one was a ZX 81, I also loved that one. (Just hated the keyboard)
- Anders
Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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my first 16bit (!) computer with 3.14mhz and 32kb ram - i really loved it !!!
btw: i voted for windoze... 
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Yeah the TI99/4A rocked. I got one when I was 12. Taught myself BASIC on it to make space invaders aliens dance around the screen. Of course I didn't have any drive or tape backup so I had to record my programs on paper and re-enter it every time I rebooted.
Ahh, The good old days....
Josh
josh@that-guy.net
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Speccy Rulez Forever =)_
Thought my first computer was BK0010-01 (very popular Russian computer) 8-bit + 16K RAM + 16K ROM + Tape Recorder as the storage device. But the ZX-SPECTRUM was the REAL =) love for me.
ps: voted for Windows
Best regards,
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Igor Soukhov (Brainbench/Tekmetrics ID:50759)
igor@soukhov.com | ICQ:57404554 | http://soukhov.com
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Sure Apple has suffered from a dearth of software and tons of bad press over the years, but give them credit where it is due. Without the innovation of Apple over the years, we would not have Microsoft Windows, at least not in the form it is today. They stole the idea, implementation and styling from Apple years ago and they continue to do it year after year.
I wish for a world where the system that is responsible for all the creative thinking and continues to be a superior platform got the recognition and success it deserves.
Sef Tarbell
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Well said code master. 
Microsoft always rips off from apple. 
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