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Mark_Wallace wrote: What they're doing is tantamount to trying to copyright the button, or the combobox.
IIRC someone patented "slide the finger to unblock" and won a related process. So no wonder that they now try to copyright. Doing things good and having customers / developers as first priority (or even the first 5) is long gone 
M.D.V. 
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That was apple, and android had to not use it, any more.
Unfortunately for apple, everyone preferred the method that android replaced it with -- so apple copied that.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Unfortunately for apple, everyone preferred the method that android replaced it with -- so apple copied that.
And they didn't get sued? Here you have... the proof that google is not that evil [/sarcasm]
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Or they're just not completely stupid.
Having common interface elements, etc, benefits everyone; ridiculous lawsuits end up not even benefitting the plaintiff.
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In my world of analogies:
Oracle is an automobile manufacturer. They make a car known as Java
Android is another car; which is made by Google.
And the API... It is road that both kinds of cars can drive on
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Works for me.
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I am surprised to see Microsoft on that list. I wonder what they'll think when someone copies the Win32 API.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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They already have (at least in part):
Borland's 32-bit DOS extender implemented a subset of the Win32 API.
Phar Lap's 32-bit DOS extender ditto
wine (on Linux  ) must reimplement much of the Win32 API.
And IIRC, there is some (not very popular) project to produce a clone of Windows NT (at the API level).
To the best of my knowledge, none of those have been sued by Microsoft.
Microsoft have done many stupid (IMO) things, but they are not the worst players in their field.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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One of the most notable trends of the 2010s was an increase in data breaches. "The calls are coming from inside the house!"
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Good Lord!
An intelligent and well-written article on betanews?!?
No buzzwords, no click-baity hyping of the title?
Whatever is the world coming to?
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We're in the wrong universe.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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A better one!
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Because wiping the deck with us over games of Go really isn't that tough anymore. 2b | !2b?
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Huge news.
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In this post, I introduce a simple new language feature of C# 8 called using declarations. As opposed to using statements, using blocks, and using hard drugs
mostly
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The most useful using was actually in VB.
Using someObject
.Property1 = ""
.Property2 = somethingElse
.Etc = 42
End Using
I do miss that since I've been doing c# forever now.
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I thought I remembered some other use for using... Dang, but it's been ages since I've written any VB either. 
TTFN - Kent
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No reason to miss that feature.
C# has it, but better and cleaner...
Especially the indentation behavior in VS for VB sucks, it's really terrible, but works as you'd expect in C#.
Also, no need to turn Option Strict Off for anonymous types and mess up a whole file... Or isn't that necessary anymore?
var so = new SomeObject
{
.Property1 = "",
.Property2 = somethingElse,
.Etc = 42
};
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That's not the same feature. This is for object initialisation, the VB one can be used on any object at any time.
IIRC there were very good reasons for avoiding it. I cannot recall the details any more though.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Further, it seems that you're "using" the wrong statement, you're thinking of "With".
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Oh, I'm thinking of With, yeah.
But C# has using too...
So in that case I'm not sure what you mean.
Are you just setting some properties without having to type the variable name?
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Yes. The VB using syntax can be done any time; not just when creating the object.
Turbo Pascal had something similar and I've missed it for the last 20+ years.
PS thanks for making me feel old this morning. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: and I've missed it
Have you really missed it?
Sounds like just some syntactic sugar to me... 
Dan Neely wrote: PS thanks for making me feel old this morning.
It beats not getting old so you're welcome
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Sander Rossel wrote: Dan Neely wrote: and I've missed it
Have you really missed it?
Sounds like just some syntactic sugar to me...
Really nice syntactic sugar.
If I wanted to keep everything in the language as verbose as it was 15+ years ago, I'd do Java instead. Virtually nothing is being done to deverbose that language. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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What a long article, just for introducing a short style of writing.
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