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No. I am saying that if they make the decision to move all Control Panel functionality to the Settings program, they should engineer a way to do so and be done with it. One feasible way is to modify Control Panel to let MS know what .cpls are used. Hell, they could even have the .cpl sent to their labs, reverse engineer it, and redo it for the Settings program if they are so damned excited about eliminating the Control Panel. And they could do so by modifying the program they control - the Control Panel itself, to do so.
In short, if they are so set on moving to the Settings program, then do so. There shouldn't be any real reason for them to ask what is needed from the users. Or, just leave the Control Panel alone.
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So I understand that you think it is better if MS do not communicates with its users (here: .cpl developers) to discuss their needs.
Personally, I think good communication between software vendors and users is essential to develop a good product. I don't see any good reason to work against it.
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MS already knows the needs of the users. The users need the functionality that the Control Panel already gave them. No need to ask!
The quote from the article I posted wasn't asking .cpl developers. It was asking users.
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I think lots of open software developers think the same way. "We know what the users need; we don't have to ask them".
That is a major reason why there is still a lot of room for commercial software.
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And yet Microsoft continually IGNORES the feedback of the users! Many have said they don't want the ribbon interface. Many have said to keep the top bar of a window for dragging. And make it so you can tell which window has focus in a clear and concise manner. And keep the scrollbars visible by default. And many other feedbacks MS has ignored. So your insistence that MS asks the users is actually kind of humorous, because they have shown they will not listen to it even if they ask!
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David O'Neil wrote: One feasible way is to modify Control Panel to let MS know what .cpls are used. Hell, they could even have the .cpl sent to their labs, reverse engineer it, and redo it for the Settings program if they are so damned excited about eliminating the Control Panel. And they could do so by modifying the program they control - the Control Panel itself, to do so.
If 99% of users set their w10 telemetry to "open the firehose all the way, give them everything including the keys to the kingdom and the kitchen sink" what you suggest might be an option.
I'm pretty sure the reality is that most users have set telemetry to the minimum level and aren't even reporting which parts of the Control Panel are still being used; so they're asking to get data about what to prioritize porting next, and potentially if any parts are so little used that they might be reduced to hidden registry keys or group policy settings instead.
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Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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You've got a point there. Maybe they could get around the issue with their fast ring builds (if they didn't require a complete ground-level install), and requiring telemetry in them. Then the MS guy could have made a statement like: "We've incorporated all of the Control Panel plugins that our early beta testers required in the latest and greatest Settings program! Try it out, and if we've overlooked one that you need, let us know before we eliminate Control Panel entirely in the next major build!" (In other words, sell it as a pretty much done deal, rather than something they are looking for feedback on.)
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Maybe eventually, their progress has been slow enough since W8 came out that I'm not expecting them to get to the point of being able to axe the control panel for at least another 5 or 10 years.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: for at least another 5 or 10 years.
That sounds about right.
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Yes, follow the lead of Android where settings are scattered around; make it a treasure hunt!
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And I wonder (again, and again, and again...) how many things will they break to make this completely undesired and unrequested disaster "feature" available?
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I think they're just setting up a CYA moment for when a future Windows update accidently deletes all or part of the control panel.
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Can an organization that pretty much eliminated their QA department have the intelligence to think that far ahead? I doubt it.
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Windows had a QA department? Really? What did they do? Go on picnics all day?
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In a C# 9 deep dive, we go in-depth on records. 45s or 33s? (or 78s for the oldsters)
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Designated initialization is an extension of aggregate initialization and empowers you to directly initialize the members of a class type using their names. Are they the ones that drive you to the bar if you're already too drunk?
Even with all the size and age of C++, it amazes me when it just gets a feature common to many other languages.
Yes, I'm sheltered.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Are they the ones that drive you to the bar if you're already too drunk? Better to the bar than to the brothel, don't you think?
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As voice assistants like Google Assistant and Alexa increasingly make their way into internet of things devices, it’s becoming harder to track when audio recordings are sent to the cloud and who might gain access to them. Alyssa eluted the electroanalyitical elixer mixer (order one of everything. send.)
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Accidentally... yeah, right.
Is it ever disconnected?
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I know they're disconnected at my house. I keep them at the store to avoid accidental connection
TTFN - Kent
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Another possibility[^]
After reading it for the first time I did it at a friend's place... now it is always disconnected everytime we go to visit them
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And there are no routers in the study from the Fraunhofer Institute without known security flaws. Root route for routers is short?
Sorry, ran out of ideas a the end.
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So...
at one side the big players and their data slurping
at the other side government agencies and their data slurping
one side more is occupied by the hackers and their data slurping
and the last one by scammers and other parasits...
and in the middle of all that sh1t, we, the users.
I start thinking that a global EMP could be a good idea.
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Were you going for something like "Rooted router wreaks riot?"
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