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Greetings Kind Regards May I suggest the spam filter utilized on this fine site may be a bit dodgy as its' rate of success in my case is zero percent My posts are frequently identified as potential spam I have no idea why They are ultimately permitted It would be interesting educational and perhaps useful if the filter would provide reasons for its' decisions and those presented to the poster Even though the posts are ultimately permitted I still feel a bit insulted to be identified as such Also I do not wish to trouble the human who has the unfortunate task of performing the review Perhaps the filter can be replaced w/ one of higher quality or adjusted in some manner I would be curious as to the identify of the filter and the technology it utilizes - Cheerio
"I once put instant coffee into the microwave and went back in time." - Steven Wright
"Shut up and calculate" - apparently N. David Mermin possibly Richard Feynman
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Greetings Kind Regards I am not sure how the message you kindly referred me to has a bearing re/ my concerns questions or requests As for the automated system doing a pretty good job my experience as I have stated is just the opposite Publishing its' performance statistics might be helpful for such like me who have little confidence in it One benefit of the post of OriginalGriff is I obtained from it the vague impression moderators do not mind the task If that is the case I will tolerate the automated systems' almost constant errors in my case which will probably include this one as well Best Wishes - Cheerio
"I once put instant coffee into the microwave and went back in time." - Steven Wright
"Shut up and calculate" - apparently N. David Mermin possibly Richard Feynman
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PaltryProgrammer wrote: the automated systems' almost constant errors If you understand anything about AI systems, then you must know they are far from infallible. As OG says, the automated system does a tolerably good job, but it still sees things that are only marginally spam-like, and errs on the side of caution. Had you been around at the time when the site was being bombarded with hundreds of spam messages in an hour, you would see that the system is vital to the health of the site.
modified 7-Sep-21 4:35am.
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The filter watches and the filter learns.
If you can point me to some messages that were flagged I can take a look and see what triggered the filter.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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That message appears to be nothing more than a link and your signature. I would have though it was fairly obvious why the spam filter would throw that one to the moderators.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Yeah - that one hit a few of the triggers
cheers
Chris Maunder
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... as long one can get access them anyway by
https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Edit.aspx?fid=????&select=??????&floc=/Lounge.aspx&action=m
modified 4-Oct-21 21:01pm.
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Yes, you can - if you know the details.
The idea of moderation is to prevent dodgy messages becoming generally visible, and the automated system does a pretty good job of detecting possible spam (which can involve a heck of a lot of factors) then passing it to a human for review and the final decision on "permit" or "destroy".
And you have accidentally triggered it's deliberate paranoia, so it is "watching you" and will continue to until enough messages have been approved by humans to appease the beast.
Don't worry, we are normally pretty quick - but it's a Sunday in Summer so most moderators are not at work and are doing other things ("getting a life" in some cases) and that means it's a little slower than usual.
And you'll be away from moderation soon.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Example mail address: xyz@xyz_this.org
That address will not be accepted because of the underline. I think this is a bug?
modified 4-Oct-21 21:01pm.
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Underscores are not permitted in email domain names:
The domain name part of an email address has to conform to strict guidelines: it must match the requirements for a hostname, a list of dot-separated DNS labels, each label being limited to a length of 63 characters and consisting of:
- uppercase and lowercase Latin letters A to Z and a to z;
- digits 0 to 9, provided that top-level domain names are not all-numeric;
- hyphen
- , provided that it is not the first or last character.
This rule is known as the LDH rule (letters, digits, hyphen). In addition, the domain may be an IP address literal, surrounded by square brackets [], such as jsmith@[192.168.2.1] or jsmith@[IPv6:2001:db8::1] , although this is rarely seen except in email spam.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I got an email saying someone replied to my message, but when I went to reply I couldn't because the message was still under moderation.
If it was spam I don't want to see it at all, if it isn't spam I want to be able to reply.
So it would make sense to not send an email until the message is approved.
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There is a similar issue with Chris' excellent "5 second rule". (I don't think the timeout is that short, but that's what he called it a few years ago.)
If you post a reply, then edit it soon enough, the edit doesn't show as such.
The issue is that the original reply was emailed to whoever you're replying to, but the edited version shows in the forum.
This has tripped me up a few times when I corrected typos in my answers.
Of course, knowing how this works opens up an opportunity for malice.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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The problem is that between the time a message was posted, and was not auto-flagged as SPAM, it may have been flagged as SPAM by one of the moderators.
Even if it is auto-flagged as SPAM and set to moderation, most of the emails need to be sent as this is how some of our moderations get notified of new messages that they might want to check.
I'm going to think through the logic on this before making changes.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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Matthew Dennis wrote: it may have been flagged as SPAM by one of the moderators. Not in my case, unless you have lightning fast moderators.
Matthew Dennis wrote: as this is how some of our moderations get notified of new messages You could send it to moderators only?
Message gets posted -> Spam filter turns out positive -> Email moderators -> Moderators approve -> Email OP
Message gets posted -> Spam filter turns out negative -> Email OP
Unless the spam filter isn't something you can get between, like if the flow was async, like so:
Message gets posted -> Email OP
_______________________ -> Spam filter turns out positive/negative ...
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Brain failure has occurred: I hit the "report"flag on my comment rather than the comment I replied to: Comments by Kathryn Fix[^] And it was accepted.
I know you can't upvote your own stuff, but it seems strange that you can report yourself for spamming / trolling ...
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Looks like your report has been removed.
I've de-activated my own account before. I'm just waiting for the day when I "forget" my own account.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Don't you just hate days like that?
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When a question is answered at Q&A it seems that the update information for the question is updated event though the question itself is not updated.
What I mean is that in the end of the question you see when the question was posted, when was it updated and a link to revision history. For example
Posted 40 mins ago Updated 5 mins ago v2
It seems that the updated info is modified based on the solution, not that the question was updated.
Could it be possible to separate these
Question posted 40 mins ago, Question updated 25 mins ago v2, Solutions updated 5 mins ago
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What if we just said "thread updated x mins ago"?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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That would prevent the misunderstanding. However, personally I often come back later to questions that need clarification so from the answering point of view it would be nice to know if the question itself has been updated recently. In other words, is there some new info on it.
So I would be totally happy if the updated at time would take only updates to the question itself into account
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Dear CP support,
i want to ask you to delete my account. There is nothing wrong with your site, i just dont use this account anymore.
Thanks in advance.
modified 26-Sep-21 21:01pm.
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See the reply to the question below, titled "Account deletion".
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