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Does your programming language support namespaces? Then I‘d stay with Filter but put it in a different namespace. Then you would ‚only‘ need a name for the namespace. During a transition phase you must specify the namespace, if both types can be used in parallel.

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I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen.

First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing.

It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste.

If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors?

NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors.

Thanks

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If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

modified 28-May-24 15:22pm.

I use RDC on a dual-monitor Windows 10 system (left monitor) to connect to a single-monitor Windows 7 system (right monitor). I can copy & paste between the two. Your experience is different, though, correct?

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I'm taking about copy & paste INSIDE RDC. Not from Host to Remote

In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.”
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

I just now tried that, too, and it works as expected. I was using a couple of Notepad windows.

"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

I have the exact same configuration and all is working fine.

I use plain old mstsc.exe (the standard RDP client), and it does work with multiple monitors, as long as they're adjacent. The trick is to make sure your .rdp file contains the correct monitor IDs - and they're NOT necessarily the same as those reported by the Display Settings utility. To get the correct monitor IDs mstsc.exe recognizes, run:

mstsc /l

...which will enumerate your monitors (the ID you need) and the resolution and coordinates they're running (that should be your indicator as to which monitor that line represents). In my case, as I'm writing this, it shows monitors 1, 3 and 5 (even though I only have 3 physical monitors hooked up) and based on the resolution shown, I know the correct IDs are 1 and 5.

Therefore, my .rdp file contains the line:

selectedmonitors:s:1,5

You CANNOT set this purely by using mstsc.exe's UI - this has to be done by manually editing the .rdp file with some text editor.

There's other settings that can be written to the .rdp file through the UI (telling it to use multiple monitors, etc). I'm not certain which of the following are necessary, but along with the line above, I also have these, which are probably related:

screen mode id:i:2
span monitors:i:1
use multimon:i:1

Bottom line is, I suggest you enable multiple desktops using the mstsc.exe UI, save the .rdp file, close mstsc.exe, and then manually tweak the content to ensure (a) the 3 lines above are there and (b) adjust the selectedmonitors line based on the IDs you're getting back.

Note that those IDs can change just by rebooting your system. It's annoying, but I don't know of any solution for that. Sometimes "#5" will become "#4", so I have to change that one line. If it goes back to #5, I change it back.

I also use mRemoteNG, but I never tried to get it to use more than one monitor at a time.

A co-worker of mine uses RDCMan from SysInternals, but I don't think it supports multiple monitors (or if it does, it's all-or-nothing).

While I appreciate you taking the time to reply, I'm not sure it answered my post.

When I'm in RDS, Copy & Paste doesn't work (Inside RDC, not Host to Remote. Copy text, past, nothing!), and the whole experience is reallllly slow. I've tried multiple 'fixes' over & over, with no luck. so I'm looking for an alternative.

In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.”
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

Sorry, I thought you were focusing on multi-monitor support.

But, I do tend to stick with mstsc.exe, and generally, copy and paste does work.

I use Royal Terminal Services and have for years. The guy who created this is a CodeProject member and an excellent guy (naturally) to boot.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Thanks!

In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.”
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

I see your copy+paste not working and rise it to copy+paste working across users.

I copy something in my session and you can paste it in your session.

That was RDC to a Windows Server 2012... really funny D'Oh! | :doh:

M.D.V.

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Not talking about Users or Sessions.

Copy & Paste text INSIDE RDC not working

In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.”
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

I use Multiplicity from Stardock, but it only works with windows. It works either by extending your desktop, or as a regular remote desktop connection (very fast compared to mstsc).

I can recommend mRemoteNG which is a multi-protocol, multi-tab remote client for RDP, SSH, VNC etc.
The current release is quite old, but there are some betas about - results may vary.
Development appears to be in transition, but it works so well that a few quirks are acceptable (e.g. latest beta requires a click in the window to set focus when changing tabs on SSH connections).
Choosing Redirects is easy and includes the clipboard (works perfectly in the same tab, between tabs and between host and client).

So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8

Clumpco wrote:
So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8

Totally off the topic at hand (my apologies). I just had to reply after seeing this tagline. It took me back to my high school days when I was doing exactly the same thing. Toggle switches, RIM loader, BIN loader, yay!

To me I see two parts to the problem and responses only seem to focus on one part. The parts
- Oracle Box VM
- RDC

I presume you are running the VM locally. Not having used VMWare for a very long time I would also wonder what you might have going on in it. So you might want to try a completely different and minimal build. Along with verifying how memory is being mapped. (I can suppose everything is going to be slow if memory in the VM is low.)

Then you might also try using RDC with something completely different also. Also locally.

After localizing the problem to one of those then you could start looking for a solution.

Specially for inhouse connections between Windows machines, I am using TightVNC for years now. Pretty fast and I do work on a lot of headless machines, including constant copy&paste (both text as well as files) all day long. Also including about half a dozen VMs (mostly older Windows XP/7 hosts for software that doesn't exist or is retarded on newer versions of Windows)...

I read your question and I remember that this happened to me, but I could not remember how I fixed it.

I went to lunch and voila, I remembered.

After I reinstalled both the client machine and the machine I was remoting to, I decided this was not a Windows issue. Trust me, I tried everything I could try.

I tested another keyboard on the local machine, and that fixed the problem.

Does it make sense, no.

Did it work, yes!

Good luck!

I have just re-read your initial post and realised that I hadn't noticed the fateful words "Oracle VirtualBox".
This piece of s**tware will update itself and then totally forget to mention that you need to manually update the Extension Pack which needs to be installed and kept updated on the hosted VM.
In the past this has led me to lost shared drives, weird mouse behaviour, etc.

So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8

I use 3 computers/3 28" monitors--Left-Middle-Right

All three run Startdock's Multiplicity which allows me to use one keyboard/mouse for all three computers. Left and Right are Multiplicity clients, Middle is Multiplicity master.

Left (4 core CPU/16 GB) serves as a mail and file server (NAS type server) plus run either Xming or Cygwin X windows connection. Left is also used for Firefox/Chrome internet connection for information lookup.

Middle (12 core cpu/32 GB) run one RDC connection plus an optional XMing/Cygwin X windows connection. Middle is also used for word processing. Middle also can run Oracle Virtual box for testing new Linux configurations/distros.

Right (8 core/16 GB) runs Virtualbox for main Linux development.

All 3 use 256 GB SSD's plus one 1 TB HDD for system backups.

Right (the main VB development system) also runs a 512 GB SSD for Linux VB systems.

I also have one standby system for emergency of specialized testing.

System SSD's (Windows 10) are cloned about every 2-3 weeks onto a rotational SSD.

My guess is that there are several IT departments where I work scrambling to find a replacement.
I can already hear a director asking, "Is there any way we can get a copy of the codebase to maintain our own internal version of ICQ?"

By the way, the phrase "can we get a copy of the codebase to maintain our own version" should be heard as "now is a good time to update your resume"

Last time someone tried this, it was for MS Money. With no luck, unfortunately -> How to bin dump an excellent piece of software ... Frown | :(

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