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David O'Neil wrote: No, that wasn't politics. It was advertising. Their ads were literally appearing next to Nazi propaganda and hate speech. It becomes politics if politicians force them to buy ads under such circumstances.
It is politics. Only the Left says that man. Like, self-awareness and whatnot. You're going to have to show me examples over the Nazi propaganda because everything I've seen is a load of nonsense.
Musk already said more than once he's defending free speech as long as it's legal. Nothing wrong with that, even if someone wants to creating something out of thin air. All he's doing is rolling back the clock before the thought police took over.
The fact is, companies like Disney tried to manipulate him. All they had to do was silently not advertise. But, back to the original point... no they used their dollars in an attempt to control him. That's why he said what he said. I'll never understand why some people can't get this simple fact. Hate for the next target by the news isn't rational that's for sure.
David O'Neil wrote: Sounds like a quote from the conservative radio stations my father listens to.
So, thinking just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean they're automatically right about everything makes me sound conservative? Ok, sure.
David O'Neil wrote: Have a great day!
Ditto 
Jeremy Falcon
modified 17-Aug-24 15:45pm.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: You're going to have to show me examples over the Nazi propaganda because everything I've seen is a load of nonsense.
Disney, Microsoft ads on Twitter show up next to neo-Nazi propaganda: report[^]. From your tone, you've already determined it is nonsense, so this is pointless.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: So, thinking just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean they're automatically right about everything makes me sound conservative?
Jeremy Falcon wrote: You can't disagree with anyone who's Jewish now? Doing so makes you Hitler?
Don't know how you reached the first of these quotations in your last post. I was just saying that the quote in my first post sounded like you were just parroting conservative radio. In my experience, conservative radio has fabricated a whole alternate reality that doesn't reflect our current one. One of those discrepancies is the 'liberals' I'm aware of think you can criticize Israel while still supporting the idea of Israel. Conservative radio says we are all Israel-hating communist/socialist scum.
Fundamentally, it seems our 'oligarchs' want to blindly support Israel because there is money in it for them. So they cast 'conservatives' and 'liberals' against each other through culture wars, and continue down their path of greed and corruption, and we buy it all up, like good consumers. Even hating each other because we have been told to do so.
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David O'Neil wrote: From your tone, you've already determined it is nonsense, so this is pointless.
I could say the same dude. One thing you should know, I do not trust the NY post and never will. So, that's my bias. That being said, I don't know anything about that movie. Do you? Have you actually watched it or do you just blindly trust the news article? I don't. 
I may watch it later... it's a movie so I didn't watch it before I replied. But, logically speaking... one of two things are true...
1) That move is benign and they're flipping out over nothing. 2) That movie is stupid and actually antisemitic. If we haven't watched the movie then none of us know. But, for the sake of argument, let's just assume 2 is the actual case. I wholeheartedly believe that it's Disney's prerogative to not want their ads placed against whatever.
But again, they tried to manipulate Musk. Now, I'm not sure if you'll ignore this point a third time, such as these types of chats go. But, please be aware that was the reason for him saying what he did. I'm going off one of his interviews.
Also, for poops and giggles, let's continue to assume it's still option number 2 and the movie is just totally stupid. Again, free speech doesn't mean "only the speech you like." It never will. That's not free speech. The thought police need to be abolished as it's the most un-American thing ever. And believe me, there's a ton of crap online I'll never agree with, but you don't see me complaining about taking that crap down.
Sure, it may seem like I'm being hardheaded, but I critically think and analyze before coming to strong conclusions and blindly trusting the media is not wise. And regardless if that movie is filth or not, free speech must be protected. The thought police have gone too far. Which means Disney is overstepping their authority/influence.
David O'Neil wrote: Don't know how you reached the first of these quotations in your last post. I was just saying that the quote in my first post sounded like you were just parroting conservative radio.
I'm independent and will always be. So, I'm sure I'll sound conservative at times depending on what I'm yapping on about. If it makes you feel better, I argue with them too.
David O'Neil wrote: One of those discrepancies is the 'liberals' I'm aware of think you can criticize Israel while still supporting the idea of Israel. Conservative radio says we are all Israel-hating communist/socialist scum.
Well, without trying to get really political... I'll just say. I totally agree. I'm not pro-Palestine in the slightest btw, but I'm not under the impression that any country is impervious to mistakes - including the US.
I also will totally concede the hyperbole isn't one-side either. Apparently everyone does it. 
David O'Neil wrote: Fundamentally, it seems our 'oligarchs' want to blindly support Israel because there is money in it for them. So they cast 'conservatives' and 'liberals' against each other through culture wars, and continue down their path of greed and corruption, and we buy it all up, like good consumers. Even hating each other because we have been told to do so.
Amen brother. There's money in war... unfortunately.
That's part of my reason for no longer trusting the media (all of it, not just the NY post). We're too divisive these days man. We need to be one country again if we're gonna prosper.
Jeremy Falcon
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Btw, still assuming option 2 is the case... I would love to see people get this upset over anti-Christian propaganda. Currently, there's only one group you can insult - Christians. But, I know for a fact nobody in the media cares. Now, you have to wonder why that is...
Oh, and even if I think anti-Christian garbage is trash, I still don't advocate for preventing free speech.
Jeremy Falcon
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Dude, that movie is 12 hours long.
I mean, I'm trying to do my due diligence, but dang. So, to save me 12 hours... let's just assume it's an anti-Jew movie. The way I see it, free speech is free speech and it amazes me how selective people are about that with their knee-jerk reactions and labels... even if I don't like it at all.
Jeremy Falcon
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Obviously, I've triggered something in you. If you think that advertisers refusing to do business with Twitter because their ads might be placed next to a video (or any other type of hate speech) is 'manipulation/control,' then I don't know what to say. Everyone, everywhere, tries to 'manipulate/control' us through money, but you aren't calling that out - just the Twitter sh*t.
Have a great one in spite of our differences! If you are open to seeing another side of Musk, google "elon musk Thailand cave pedophile" - he comes off as a complete narcissist looking for public affirmation, even if he did later retract his words.
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David O'Neil wrote: Obviously, I've triggered something in you. If you think that advertisers refusing to do business with Twitter because their ads might be placed next to a video (or any other type of hate speech) is 'manipulation/control,'
I don't think that. I think you're not following what I'm saying. I'm saying Disney tried to get him to change his ways so to speak. I've already mentioned if they just silently stopped it would be no big deal. So, just guessing you're skimming over my posts.
David O'Neil wrote: Have a great one in spite of our differences!
You too man. I hope we're still BFFs.
David O'Neil wrote: he comes off as a complete narcissist looking for public affirmation, even if he did later retract his words
I don't know anything about this story, but I do know this only proves what I've been saying... people are too sensitive and getting butt hurt. After a quick skim on page one of Google, all I know for certain is Musk called some dude a pedo, he got upset, and Musk was proven innocent in court.
Again, I don't believe Musk is perfect. Not at all. But my entire point has been all this hate towards him is people being mind controlled by the media. There are far, far worse people that nobody cares about. Why? Because nobody actually cares about being a good person. No, they just wait for the media to tell him who to hate next.
So, for the sake of argument, let's just say he's a douche. I don't agree, but let's pretend. 1) My point still remains. 2) He's at least a douche trying to restore something humanity lost.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I've already mentioned if they just silently stopped
Where is the loud public proclamation by Disney you speak of? As far as I've seen, Disney didn't say anything until after Iger (sp?) was asked. Disney didn’t proactively say, 'do this or else' you seem to implying they did when ads were pulled. Did I miss something? It seems pretty silent at the time.
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I'm just going off of an interview of his. Now, if he was lying, well dang it. I didn't dig deeper into it because if I was going to find reasons to not like him, I would've done it before the media told me to and Disney has already shown their true colors in other ways.
Probably doesn't help that fact that there are a ton of horror stories from workers at Disney, and I already don't like them for their subliminal messaging to kids. Also, I've known peeps that worked there too, as devs. I've also interviewed a couple of times with them and firsthand experienced severe arrogance and weird vibes with their IT dept at least. So, my bias was inclined towards "bruh" without further investigation.
Jeremy Falcon
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Oh, I already know there are manufacturing issues with the cyber truck. But, that doesn't make me hate the guy disproportionately. My whole point is people blindly worship then news and don't think for themselves. Companies like Nabisco were far worse, but nobody will care until the news tells them its time to hate something new.
Jeremy Falcon
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Richard, you lost me at the Kool-aid comment. This conversation is beneath me and is insulting to my intellect. Do better.
Jeremy Falcon
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Yeah, keep ignoring any evidence that your techbro hero isn't the "free speech absolutist" he wants you to think he is. You can just claim the conversation is "beneath you", ignore it, and move on. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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You can think whatever the hell you want, Richard. I'm not wasting time with you.
Jeremy Falcon
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Big tech is too big for its britches now IMO.
Jeremy Falcon
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Agree with you completely on this point. They have joined the 'oligarchy.'
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What is the average lifespan that you have personally observed with ordinary, inexpensive USB hubs ?
(I asked similar questions back HERE in 2019)
I'm Focusing my thoughts here on the seven port things with the little switches next to the physical ports where you can turn each one on and off.
My last one was maybe 5 or 10 bucks, and I think I got maybe two years out of it.
Am I a bad Shopper ? Or is that just what you have to expect with this level of a equipment ?
I'm thinking: Two pieces of metal, (and it's thin metal) Sliding back and forth in physical contact with each other; repeat a few hundred times; and the things just wear out.
I suppose it happens with car parts, so I guess it happens about the same with USB ports as well.
Then again, I'm just making this up at the keyboard as I type, and I barely have any idea of what I'm talking about in the first place (which conforms to the generally accepted procedure of Internet Scientific Discourse).
Just wondering what the smarter humans among me might have to offer in terms of brain support.
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I don't think mice even last that long anymore, so we now buy cheap ones and keep some extras around.
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I bought an Apanage brand powered USB hub on Amazon for like $30-$40 USD.
I've used it for a number of years now without a hitch, and if anything i'm kind of hard on it, given the devices that I plug into it are often hand wired to god only knows what.
I can't remember the last one I had before that, to be honest, other than a chintzy little 4 port unpowered doodad i used with my PS4. It never died, but I didn't use it very rigorously or frequently.
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I've had a couple 4-port hubs connected to my computer for a couple (few?) years now, with no problems. Haven't had the impression either of them are dying, so maybe it is just the brand you picked?
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glancing at side of desk with two usb hubs 10 years old... still working...
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I have a super cheap 2 device KVM for keyboard, mouse, and HDMI.
The first one lasted about 15 months. I think it may have over heated since I keep my computer on 24/7.
I bought the same model again and drilled a bunch of holes in the top and bottom and put some feet on it for an air gap.
I am hoping to get a little more life out of this one.
I calculate the cost to about $2/month. Worth the convenience.
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I have a decent quality 4-port KVM switch, which has worked flawlessly for 4 years. Two ports are connected to desktop PCs, and two are used for portable stuff (work portable, my portable).
My wife had a 2-port KVM from the same company that stopped working after 2 years when she spilled a mug of tea over it.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I've never discarded a USB hub because it "no longer worked".
I tend not to connect/disconnect/reconnect devices. Once it's hooked up, it tends to stay there.
I know there's cheap hubs out there that should be externally powered but don't come with a power adapter, and draw the power from the one port they're connected to. That's just a recipe for disaster.
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