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Vault is great.
The only complaint I have about vault and it's integration is it's stupid requirement to use the mouse. There is no short-cut to get rid of the comment query dialogs when checking out, which is extremelly annoying. Otherwise it's simply great.
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I'm suprised no one uses Bitkeeper. From what I heard about it it is less complicated to use than things like Dimensions, or Clearcase, and has better features than CVS.
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It hasn't been updated in ages. Microsoft is improving their source control support with other products such as Perforce. Only God and Bill Gates knows when Microsoft is going to stop supporting VSS.
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As of 16:19 EDT on 4/12, more people use no version control than use CVS.
I'm honestly surprised.
Even when I'm the sole author of the code - test tools, utilities etc. - I still use some sort of source control. Having used it regularly on all multi-developer projects (i.e. more than one person) I can appreciate and make use of the benefits a SCC system offers even for my own projects. I'm surprised so many people don't see that benefit.
Brad
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I'm surprised too. Even on solo projects I use CVS (via a local repository) so I can checkout old releases, etc. as needed - or just checkout copies to tinker with. I cannot imagine development without CVS - after the compiler/development environment it is my most important tool.
We use a Unix CVS repository here at work which is over 10 years old! I have opne project that was added to CVS in 1992 (and still needs to be tinkered with about once a year!).
The Rob Blog
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CVS isn't that user friendly.
Todd Smith
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It's user friendly. It's just picky about who it considers a friend.
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Booohoo!
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It is VSS. However, most of the time my projects don't warrent the use of any source control.
Matt Newman
All rise for the honorable Judge Stone Cold Steve Austin - From Dilbert Episode 30
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Matt Newman wrote:
However, most of the time my projects don't warrent the use of any source control.
You say that now....
Sometimes I feel like I'm a USB printer in a parallel universe.
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Matt Newman wrote:
However, most of the time my projects don't warrent the use of any source control.
Care to explain that. Even my smallest projects go into version control. You never know when you might need to go back a version or compare differences to track down a bug.
Michael
But you know when the truth is told,
That you can get what you want or you can just get old,
Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through.
When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
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Michael P Butler wrote:
You never know when you might need to go back a version or compare differences to track down a bug.
True, but since nearly all my projects are school related I typically have less than a week to do each assignment and once it is handed in its done so there isn't really and different versioning.
Matt Newman
All rise for the honorable Judge Stone Cold Steve Austin - From Dilbert Episode 30
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Can u ppl provide with the links to these Source Safe system... I have used VSS and still stiking to it as I havent tried other
There is nothing new under the sun, But there are lots of old things we don't know. - Ambrose Bierce
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Check out Subversion (a major improvement upon CVS, IMHO) at http://subversion.tigris.org.
D.C.R.
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It's a Java-but-not-Safe application .
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Exposing source control as WebDAV with versioning support is a stroke of genius. It's early still, but an obvious improvement for application development on the web.
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True .. I find subversion quite nice and I am using it now as my source control tool. In addition the TortoiseSVN utility is just simply beautiful in its usability. Very convenient.
.:. Keno .:.
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Vault is a great bit of software. I'd recommend it over SourceSafe any day
Ian Darling
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
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Well, I'd rather spend that kinda money on a development environment or a kickass computer.
Jeremy Falcon
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Well, i think that the vault software is pretty darn good for the price you pay ( after they worked out the initial kinks anyway ). The fact that you can use MSDE rather than SQL Server keeps the cost down when there are under 10 to 15 developers. Also, with the release of their newest version you are allowed to use a 1 user lic. and MSDE and the whole system costs you not a dime
Joseph Dempsey
joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
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Yeah, the user interface does suck. But at least most of it can be automated (via command-line tools and stuff) which is nice. I'd just assume use CVS or something similar, but I don't get to make those kinds of decisions.
Sometimes I feel like I'm a USB printer in a parallel universe.
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Yes, the standalone UI is so badly written that it is a waste of time, but the main problem with PVCS is that it was never designed to work over a WAN.
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Yeah, but at least they have a web interface - so it's not terrible.
Sometimes I feel like I'm a USB printer in a parallel universe.
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I don't know if I am lazy or what, but as long as the tool that I am using does it's job properly, I stick with it.
Why spend precious time learning a new, maybe better tool ?
I have learned to rely on vss and I am perfectly happy with it.
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