Bugs and Suggestions

Pete O'Hanlon21-Aug-12 3:09

21-Aug-12 3:09

I'd hate to add to your work load so I'll leave it to you.

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Pete O'Hanlon21-Aug-12 3:51

21-Aug-12 3:51

Thinking about it, I can see value to the notifications coming from certain locations, but should they really be present for posts in the community forums? I can see the benefit to replies from the C# forum, etc, but the Lounge? Perhaps these could be excluded.

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Chris Maunder21-Aug-12 3:52

21-Aug-12 3:52

The reason we introduced it was specifically for forums such as the lounge. Members were missing out on emails, either through network issues, blocks on private email access, or overactive anti-spam extortionists and so they wanted to know when there was a notification.

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Pete O'Hanlon21-Aug-12 4:00

21-Aug-12 4:00

Hmmm, I would have thought the lounge was the least important one. After all, the help all goes on in the other forums, the QA and the articles.

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Chris Maunder21-Aug-12 4:17

21-Aug-12 4:17

There's this weird "socialising" thing going on in the Lounge.

I dunno, but when I was a lad, developers did not socialise. It's all getting a little weird...

cheers,
Chris Maunder

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Pete O'Hanlon21-Aug-12 4:21

Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

21-Aug-12 4:21

Damn right. Should be a battle. After all, the collective term for developers is "a bitchy".

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Permalink Funkiness

AspDotNetDev20-Aug-12 13:59

AspDotNetDev

20-Aug-12 13:59

See An indepth look at structures in C#. That is the permalink for that article. Notice it doesn't have a ".aspx" extension.

I posted a message on that article, and http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4343389/Question-About-Struct-Inheritance.aspx is the permalink to that message. Notice it does have a ".aspx" extension. I would think that if you are going to go extensionless, you should be consistent.

Also, if I click that permalink to the message, it resolves to http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/ArticleVersion.aspx?aid=442985&av=634897&msg=4343389#xx4343389xx. This shows a specific version of the article, which at the top says "This is an old version of the currently published article." I don't see why a permalink (which I got from the current version of the article) to a message would show an old version of the article.

So, there are two issues:

The ".aspx" extension is inconsistent.
Permalinks to messages show old versions of articles.

Re: Permalink Funkiness

Chris Maunder20-Aug-12 14:27

Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

20-Aug-12 14:27

I'm happy to make the change to ditching the extension, though I can't see how it affects anything other than sensibilities. We made the decision many, many years ago to have extensions on messages, but with the newer SEO friendly URLs on articles we took the chance to ditch them. If you were in charge of a site that had many, many inbound links, how willing would you be to change the URLs of those inbound links for a purely cosmetic reason? It can be done, and reasonably easily, but what would the total effect be?

As to the second issue, the forum that the message takes you to has text above it saying 'Discussions on this specific version of this article". So the permalink took you to exactly the place it should have: the specific version of that article.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

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Microsoft C++ MVP

Re: Permalink Funkiness

AspDotNetDev20-Aug-12 14:45

AspDotNetDev

20-Aug-12 14:45

Chris Maunder wrote:
the forum that the message takes you to has text above it saying 'Discussions on this specific version of this article"

That depends, actually. If I go to the latest version of the article, I see a forum with the header "Comments and Discussions" and no explanatory text. Now, if I click the permalink button on my message, I am directed to the specific version of the article, and then the explanatory text says "Discussions on this specific version of this article. Add your comments on how to improve this article here. These comments will not be visible on the final published version of this article." Also, I only ever see one forum. Should there be a second forum that is version agnostic?

Chris Maunder wrote:
It can be done, and reasonably easily, but what would the total effect be?

Perceived better professionalism. Keeping things consistent helps your brand. Can you tell I work in a marketing department? Smile | :)

Also, if you go extensionless now, you can always change the technology later (e.g., to MVC) and not worry about changing it again (well, unless that technology requires an extension).

And if you do remove the extension, you may want to consider doing an HTTP 301 redirect from the old extensions. That way, search engines will point to the new location and you avoid having two sets of valid links to the same content (a situation that can harm your SEO).

Chris Maunder wrote:
If you were in charge of a site that had many, many inbound links, how willing would you be to change the URLs of those inbound links for a purely cosmetic reason?

Depends. I have tons of free time to do this, right? Just like you? Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

Re: Permalink Funkiness

Chris Maunder21-Aug-12 3:04

Cannot load file with same name after error (articles)

21-Aug-12 3:04

The correct orange helps our brand Smile | :)

AspDotNetDev wrote:
Also, if you go extensionless now, you can always change the technology later (e.g., to MVC)

ahem. We could move to Rails and still keep the .aspx extension if we wished.

AspDotNetDev wrote:
And if you do remove the extension, you may want to consider doing an HTTP 301 redirect from the old extensions

ahem²

http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4343389/Question-About-Struct-Inheritance.aspx[^]
http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4343389/Question-About-Struct-Inheritance[^]

Check them out in fiddler or any of the browser dev tools to see the HTTP routing.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Albert Holguin20-Aug-12 10:10

Re: Cannot load file with same name after error (articles)

20-Aug-12 10:10

If an error occurs while loading a file (happened to me with png file) you cannot attempt to load the same file merely because of the file name, even though it reported an error in the first attempt. You end up having to rename the file after each attempt.

Chris Maunder20-Aug-12 11:05

Re: Cannot load file with same name after error (articles)

20-Aug-12 11:05

A known and annoying issue. I will put this on the bug list.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Albert Holguin20-Aug-12 11:12

Re: Cannot load file with same name after error (articles)

20-Aug-12 11:12

Thanks...

Brisingr Aerowing20-Aug-12 12:02

Brisingr Aerowing

20-Aug-12 12:02

Chris Maunder wrote:
annoying

Very annoying. I have seen similar issues on other websites, and one gave the error 'message' "Ummmmmmmmmmmmm..... It seems there was an error, and an error occurred in the error handler. This has not been a good day."

A short time later, the website went kaboom. All of the servers (60 I think) had crashed at the same instant, and most of the website data was lost. From what I found out, they were on Windows Server 2003, and it was 2011 when the crash happened. I think they upgraded after that.

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Not able to load PNG file to tip

Albert Holguin20-Aug-12 10:08

20-Aug-12 10:08

Quote:
Unexpected error during upload. One or more files may not have been uploaded.

When loading png files to an tip article (less than 640 pixels; significantly less than 1MB). Not sure why it's not allowing me to load it, as you can see the error is not very descriptive. Using IE9 (work pc).

[edit] Just tried a jpg of the same picture and it didn't work either. D'Oh! | :doh:

modified 20-Aug-12 16:51pm.

Chris Maunder20-Aug-12 11:04

20-Aug-12 11:04

Which article?

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Albert Holguin20-Aug-12 11:11

20-Aug-12 11:11

http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/443640/Problem-Steps-Recorder-Overview[^]

Should be unpublished but I imagine you can still see them (considering you are the admin and all).

Albert Holguin20-Aug-12 11:14

20-Aug-12 11:14

Trying to make it short and sweet yet look good since I'm going to link it from another site for customer reference.

Albert Holguin20-Aug-12 11:20

Quick Answers spacing problem.

20-Aug-12 11:20

Just tried it from Firefox 14 and it worked from there... D'Oh! | :doh:

Richard MacCutchan20-Aug-12 7:17

Richard MacCutchan

20-Aug-12 7:17

Answers in QA are being displayed as if a dozen or more blank lines have been added to them. It makes for a lot of scrolling.

One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

Re: Quick Answers spacing problem.

Wes Aday20-Aug-12 8:43

Wes Aday

20-Aug-12 8:43

Chris said that he would be posting a fix in a bit.

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Re: Quick Answers spacing problem.

Chris Maunder20-Aug-12 9:44

20-Aug-12 9:44

All fixed.

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Microsoft C++ MVP

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20-Aug-12 6:51

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Re: Profile Popups

Chris Maunder20-Aug-12 7:05