Bugs and Suggestions

Paul Watson19-Nov-01 6:49

19-Nov-01 6:49

Go Nish! Very cool idea. You covered the main problems Chris would have replied about. Nice thinking! Smile | :)

Now David can upload all those BOB pron movies he has made.

regards,
Paul Watson
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Chris Maunder22-Nov-01 6:02

22-Nov-01 6:02

This is a good idea but one issue with this is moderation of the uploaded content. I can keep tabs on what's uploaded via articles, but an image upload area may produce a ton of uploads that I wouldn't have time to track, and in the end CodeProject would be responsible for what was posted (so if someone uploaded illegal/offensive stuff then we get in trouble). The other issue is that deleting the images/files after 24hrs will result in lots of discussion board messages with broken links (which means more angry mail in my intray).

Even so - I'll have a think about it becuase it *is* a cool idea.

cheers,
Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

Nish Nishant23-Nov-01 19:08

Nish Nishant

23-Nov-01 19:08

Perhaps you can give an upload username/passwd to some of the nicer members who you can trust Smile | :)

. For example people like me Wink | ;-)

or say poor "paul 33.6 modem" watson Smile | :)

Nish

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www.busterboy.org

Nish is a BIG fan of Goran Ivanisevic

Paul Watson4-Jan-02 4:13

4-Jan-02 4:13

Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
give an upload username/passwd to some of the nicer members who you can trust

Now that is just fishing for support Nish, shame on you Big Grin | :-D

Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
For example people like me or say poor "paul 33.6 modem" watson

On the other hand I second Nish "fellow modem user" [BusterBoy]'s idea... Wink | ;)

regards,
Paul Watson
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Nish Nishant6-Jan-02 17:49

Nish Nishant

6-Jan-02 17:49

Paul Watson wrote:
On the other hand I second Nish "fellow modem user"

Yeah, we are everywhere. The modem-users. Everywhere.

Nish

Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
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If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

Book chapters

Andrew Peace14-Nov-01 13:36

Andrew Peace

14-Nov-01 13:36

Hi Chris,

I was looking at the latest book chapter from Wrox earlier, and was wondering if you could put a TOC at the top of the article - it was thought that inspired me to write the HTML TOC Generator program in the first place in fact. I think it would make the article a lot easier to navigate.

Just a thought Smile | :)

...

--
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Re: Book chapters

Chris Maunder15-Nov-01 12:28

15-Nov-01 12:28

Good idea. I'm kinda treading water at the moment just trying to keep up with getting articles up there in the first place, so something like this may take a bit to get done.

cheers,
Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

Re: Book chapters

Paul Watson16-Nov-01 0:22

Remembering current message in a discussion board

16-Nov-01 0:22

Love the idea, but why don't the authors put in their own TOC? As you already know it is really simply to create a TOC in HTML and CP could have a few simple CSS styles and guidelines which people use to create their TOCs.

Maybe, havent checked your HTML TOC Generator out yet, have as part of the Article submission wizard a button which runs the HTG against the article and generates it right there. Could even do it using a JavaScript function on the client side (good for Chris's servers).

Cool idea Andrew Smile | :)

regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
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Re: Book chapters

Andrew Peace16-Nov-01 7:21

Andrew Peace

16-Nov-01 7:21

Paul Watson wrote:
why don't the authors put in their own TOC

I was in particular referring to the book chapters; for some I reason I thought Chris formatted those all himself, who knows? But for other articles it's a good point Smile | :)

.

Paul Watson wrote:
have as part of the Article submission wizard a button which runs the HTG against the article and generates it right there
Nice idea - this is something I could work on if Chris wishes - the whole thing is a C# class so it would be easy to do, presuming .NET was installed on the server (Chris?)

Thanks Smile | :)

!

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Mike Morearty13-Nov-01 20:16

Mike Morearty

13-Nov-01 20:16

I love love LOVE the Javascript-based discussion-board software you're using throughout CodeProject. Makes it super-quick and easy to read through discussion threads.

However, one of the problems with such solutions, of course, is that if I navigate away from the discussion page to any other page, and then navigate back to the discussion page (with the Back or Forward buttons), the page doesn't remember which message was open when I left. Plain HTML-based discussion boards don't have this problem (but then again, plain HTML-based discussion boards suck.)

For IE 5 and above, there's a solution: the saveHistory behavior. This allows you CodeProject guys, with almost no effort on your part, to have the browser re-open whatever message was open when they left the page.

For a sample of what I'm talking about, see http://www.morearty.com/history.htm -- this is a little sample I whipped up. You can move the blue box around the page; then navigate away from the page; then, when you navigate back to the page, the blue box will be where you last left it, instead of having been repositioned back to its starting position.

You could probably pretty easily apply the same behavior to the HTML you use for your message threads.

Mike Morearty
mike@morearty.com
http://www.morearty.com

Re: Remembering current message in a discussion board

Chris Maunder15-Nov-01 12:29

15-Nov-01 12:29

This has gone on the TODO list. Nice one!

cheers,
Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

Ad problem?

Roger Allen9-Nov-01 4:39

Roger Allen

9-Nov-01 4:39

I seem to have an intermittent problem when accessing CP threads. Every so often when I expand a message after about 2 secs, IE switches to a "This page cannot be found" or equivalent Frown | :(

It seems that the page is trying to switch to a different ad which is not found. Basically this makes the board practiacally unreadable Cry | :((

as you only have 2 seconds to read that post..

Is anybosy else affected by this or is it just me?

Roger Allen the Smile | :)

man

Re: Ad problem?

Nish Nishant9-Nov-01 4:45

Nish Nishant

9-Nov-01 4:45

Yup

its happnd to me a few times
I think its somethin to do with bandwidth
When my connection gets slow, this happens quite often and when I hit the back-button it has gotta load the entire page Frown | :-(

Nish

Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain

www.busterboy.org

Nish is a BIG fan of Goran Ivanisevic

Re: Ad problem?

Rassman9-Nov-01 4:56

Rassman

9-Nov-01 4:56

Stop your browser from stopping on errors (Tools-Options-Advanced). Disable script debugging and notification on errors (loads of Ads are error prone).

Ok so you run the risk of missing 'Lucy Linda wants to see you at her very own site' adverts, but thats a price we must pay.

We do it for the joy of seeing the users struggle.

Re: Ad problem?

[James Pullicino]10-Jan-02 0:26

[James Pullicino]

10-Jan-02 0:26

I don't know if my problem is related but, its really annoying that some ad banners on this site are loaded from external sites (like the Dundas advert http://www.dundas.com/products/mfc/grid/images/Grid5Banner.gif)

It is annoying since over here we have a firewall which only allows access to certain sites, and www.dundas.com is not one of them, so every now and then I get an Access denies message.

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Quoting

Thomas Freudenberg8-Nov-01 1:34

Thomas Freudenberg

8-Nov-01 1:34

Chris, how about a Reply with quote button. Many times when editing a reply you will quote the previous posting, so an automatism would be very helpful. I suggest following format:

Thomas Freudenberg wrote:
Chris, how about a Reply with quote button. Many times when editing a reply you will quote the previous posting, so an automatism would be very helpful. I suggest following format:

<blockquote><hr><small>
<b><a href="/script/profile/whos_who.asp?id=4960" target="_blank">Thomas Freudenberg</a> wrote:</b>
<br>
Chris, how about a <i>Reply with quote</i> button. Many times when editing
a reply you will quote the previous posting, so an automatism would be very helpful. I
suggest following format:
</small><hr></blockquote>

Regards
Thomas

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Michael P Butler8-Nov-01 2:01

Michael P Butler

8-Nov-01 2:01

I don't know if that is a good thing. Having it quote the entire message would lead to a lot of having to read through the same comments a lot of times in the different messages. I prefer just to quote the relevant part I'm replying to. Imagine the last message in a thread having the entire message made up of the entire thread plus a me too response.

Michael Smile | :)

Thomas Freudenberg8-Nov-01 2:31

Thomas Freudenberg

8-Nov-01 2:31

Michael P Butler wrote:
I prefer just to quote the relevant part I'm replying to.

And so I do Wink | ;)

I know that trusting in the user's discipline to quote relevant parts only is too naive. Of course we must find a compromise between easy quoting and completely quoted threads.

Regards
Thomas

Paul Watson11-Nov-01 0:17

11-Nov-01 0:17

Why not have it so that the user has to highlight the text they want to quote and then click a Quote button which inserts the highlighted text with the Quote formatting into the text box.

If they don't highlight any text then nothing happens when they click the button (or it pops up a message saying "Highlight some text, please").

regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

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Chris Maunder11-Nov-01 21:52

11-Nov-01 21:52

If you can work out the javascript that copies the selected text and pastes it into the edit window then you're a better man than I! (spent many hours trying to do exactly this - am I missing something simple?)

cheers,
Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

Paul Watson11-Nov-01 22:40

11-Nov-01 22:40

If you can work out the javascript that copies the selected text and pastes it into the edit window then you're a better man than I!

You should not set yourself up like that because...
Tada! Get selected text example

The trick is not so simple. Basically you have to create a textRange object and then pull the value from there.

Here is an example (very simple and quick):

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
	<title>Untitled</title>
	<script language="JavaScript">
		function getSel()
		{
			if (document.getSelection) txt = document.getSelection();
			else if (document.selection) txt = document.selection.createRange().text;
			else return;
			if (txt !== ""){
			txtReply.value = "<HR><I>" + txt.replace(new RegExp('([\\f\\n\\r\\t\\v ])+', 'g')," ") + "</I><HR>";
			}
			else
			{
				alert('You must please select some text to quote');
			}
		}
	</script>
</head>

<body>
	<DIV id="divOriginalPost">This is the original post, select some text and then click the quote button</DIV>	
	<TEXTAREA id="txtReply" COLS="40" ROWS="10"></TEXTAREA>
	<INPUT type="Button" onclick="getSel()" id="cmdQuote" value="Quote">

</body>
</html>

It can be made to work in Netscape. We had to do this for an intranet project and it was a pain to figure out. Luckily that link I posted above helped a lot Smile | :)

I still don't feel a better man than you though. Laugh | :laugh:

regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

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Chris Maunder12-Nov-01 16:22

12-Nov-01 16:22

Thanks Paul, thanks Mike!

The quote button is in.

cheers,
Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

Paul Watson12-Nov-01 18:54

12-Nov-01 18:54

*highlight text*
*click quote*

Chris Maunder wrote:
Thanks Paul, thanks Mike!

The quote button is in.

Ooooohhhhh Smile | :)

Now all we need is a "Generate rational, intelligent and rallying counter arguement" button... Big Grin | :-D

regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
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Michael Dunn11-Nov-01 22:42

Michael Dunn

11-Nov-01 22:42

Here's code that will append the current selection to the end of the textarea's contents. I couldn't figure out how to insert it at the current caret position (or even how to get the caret position).
Button1 = your Paste button, Text1 = the text box.

function Button1_onclick() {
var seltext = document.selection.createRange().text;
	if ( seltext != "" )
		Text1.value += seltext;
}

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