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Re: VC++.Net Nish Nishant8-May-02 23:35 Nish Nishant 8-May-02 23:35  Ollie wrote: If i write a program in UNMANAGED VC++ 7.0 using ATL 7.0 and\or MFC 7.0, do I have to install the .Net framework No, you dont have to. Ollie wrote: can I just supply the required ATL\MFC DLL's to the users machine? Yes, that's what you should do Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: VC++.Net ColinDavies8-May-02 23:38 ColinDavies 8-May-02 23:38  Ollie the use of the word UNMANAGED implies deviant behavior, Many of us are calling it 'normal' programming now. Regardz Colin J Davies Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin More about me Re: VC++.Net Nish Nishant8-May-02 23:41 Nish Nishant 8-May-02 23:41  With the advent of .NET, normality got inversed Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Newbie in trouble with MC++ Jaims7-May-02 22:05 Jaims 7-May-02 22:05  Hello, I've been working for a couple of years with VC++; a few months ago I started to see information about Managed C++ but actually I don't know nothing at all about it. I've been searching recently for some introductory articles or explanations but I've been not able to find it. Does anyone know where could I find something like that? In the board everybody seems to be already deeply inside the world of MC++, but I need something more basic!! Thanx in advance Jaims Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Albert Pascual8-May-02 6:04 Albert Pascual 8-May-02 6:04  You could buy a book about MC++? Or you can read the msdn.microsoft.com they have a pretty good introduction about .net, you can also look in http://www.microsoft.com/visualc/ The easiest way is to jump in the pool. Install Visual C++ .NET and create a project. After coding a "hello world" you won't be able to stop Al Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nish Nishant8-May-02 6:53 Nish Nishant 8-May-02 6:53  Albert Pascual wrote: After coding a "hello world" you won't be able to stop True. Very true indeed! Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nish Nishant8-May-02 6:49 Nish Nishant 8-May-02 6:49  Jaims wrote: but I need something more basic!! Read this one for a first time introduction to MC++ http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppintro01.asp Then this one for intro to GUI apps http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppwinforms01.asp And this one for IJW http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppthreadsync01.asp Regards Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Brian Delahunty8-May-02 7:52 Brian Delahunty 8-May-02 7:52  Nish's with links Read this one for a first time introduction to MC++ http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppintro01.asp Then this one for intro to GUI apps http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppwinforms01.asp And this one for IJW http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppthreadsync01.asp Happy clicking "Isn't that the "write once, debug everwhere" language?" Tom Archer on Java... Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nish Nishant8-May-02 8:03 Nish Nishant 8-May-02 8:03  Thanks I was too lazy to do that Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nick Parker8-May-02 8:14 Nick Parker 8-May-02 8:14  Brian's From Nish's with links that open in new windows. Read this one for a first time introduction to MC++ http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppintro01.asp Then this one for intro to GUI apps http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppwinforms01.asp And this one for IJW http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/mcppthreadsync01.asp Sorry, I just had to be a smart ass. Nick Parker Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nish Nishant8-May-02 8:52 Nish Nishant 8-May-02 8:52  Well, I thanked him, so I guess I am morally obliged to thank you as well. Thanks Nick Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nick Parker8-May-02 9:20 Nick Parker 8-May-02 9:20  Nish I guess I was just being obnoxious, that all, all in good fun. Thanks. Nick Parker Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nish Nishant8-May-02 9:37 Nish Nishant 8-May-02 9:37  Sometimes obnoxiousity is a good thing. Nish p.s. The word exists, I hope The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nick Parker13-May-02 3:00 Nick Parker 13-May-02 3:00  Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: p.s. The word exists, I hope It's ok if it doesn't, I used to have a C++ instructor regularly use words that don't exist (Spell Check would point them out in PowerPoint), he just told us that was the best way he could explain it. Nick Parker Re: Newbie in trouble with MC++ Nish Nishant13-May-02 14:57 Nish Nishant 13-May-02 14:57  Nick Parker wrote: It's ok if it doesn't, I used to have a C++ instructor regularly use words that don't exist (Spell Check would point them out in PowerPoint), he just told us that was the best way he could explain it. Oh Thanks Nick Nish Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him. GetWindowDC() problem Nish Nishant7-May-02 15:02 Nish Nishant 7-May-02 15:02  Hello guys I am trying to get the HDC for a form. I am calling GetWindowDC for this, but I am only getting client DC and not the window DC I am not getting the title bar of the form Any help? Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: GetWindowDC() problem [solved] Nish Nishant7-May-02 15:07 Nish Nishant 7-May-02 15:07  My bad or what The problem was not with GetWindowDC. I was later calling GetClientRect instead of GetWindowRect Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: GetWindowDC() problem [solved] James T. Johnson7-May-02 15:08 James T. Johnson 7-May-02 15:08  LOL, I was trying to figure out how GetWindowDC could give you the wrong DC James Simplicity Rules! Re: GetWindowDC() problem [solved] Nish Nishant7-May-02 16:14 Nish Nishant 7-May-02 16:14  James T. Johnson wrote: LOL, I was trying to figure out how GetWindowDC could give you the wrong DC Pardon me doc, but I am a GDI newbie and I don't intend to change that either Nish p.s. expect more pestering questions from moi in future The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday MC++ programs run slower from VS.net? Nish Nishant7-May-02 14:15 Nish Nishant 7-May-02 14:15  Hey guys, I find that GUI based MC++ programs start slower from VS .NET than C# programs. If you start it directly without debugging using Ctrl-F5, it runs fast. But otherwise I am having to wait as long as between 5-12 seconds. Is this just me? Are others facing this problem too? Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: MC++ programs run slower from VS.net? James T. Johnson7-May-02 15:07 James T. Johnson 7-May-02 15:07  Look at the output window, how many dlls are getting loaded? Thats probably where you see the extra startup time. James Simplicity Rules! Re: MC++ programs run slower from VS.net? Nish Nishant7-May-02 16:08 Nish Nishant 7-May-02 16:08  James T. Johnson wrote: Look at the output window, how many dlls are getting loaded? Thats probably where you see the extra startup time. I am using IJW. So I guess the debugger's loading both managed and unmanaged symbols Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: MC++ programs run slower from VS.net? Rama Krishna Vavilala7-May-02 15:08 Rama Krishna Vavilala 7-May-02 15:08  If you have managed and unmanaged debugging both turned on, debugging starts slower. Select only managed or only unmanaged debugging. Don't use mixed debugging Re: MC++ programs run slower from VS.net? Nish Nishant7-May-02 16:09 Nish Nishant 7-May-02 16:09  Rama Krishna wrote: If you have managed and unmanaged debugging both turned on, debugging starts slower. Select only managed or only unmanaged debugging. Don't use mixed debugging I havent touched the default settings. And anyhow I need both managed and unmanaged debugging enabled. Nish The posting stats are now in PDF:- http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/ Feel free to make your comments. Updated - May 04th, Saturday Re: MC++ programs run slower from VS.net? Rama Krishna Vavilala7-May-02 16:11 Rama Krishna Vavilala 7-May-02 16:11  In that case you have to live with the slowness. The answer to your original question is yes I have seen this slowness all the time and is caused by mixed mode debugging.

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