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Re: Toolbox needs repair! Kant11-Dec-02 14:03 Kant 11-Dec-02 14:03  Reg. MSDN read here for more http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/prodinfo/levels.asp[^] Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure. Re: Toolbox needs repair! Michael Dunn11-Dec-02 19:12 Michael Dunn 11-Dec-02 19:12  VS.NET for $799 means it costs $799, MSDN from $1,950 means there are many prices, the lowest being $1950. --Mike-- Friday's GoogleFight results: Britney Spears 2,190,000 - Erica Weichers 23 1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm Re: Toolbox needs repair! Andreas Saurwein12-Dec-02 9:06 Andreas Saurwein 12-Dec-02 9:06  Hmm, I see, a detail that any non-native english speaking may easily oversee I don't think this is a serious possesion, and the evil most likely comes from your hand. Colin J Davies, The Lounge Re: Toolbox needs repair! Chris Maunder12-Dec-02 11:51 Chris Maunder 12-Dec-02 11:51  What link do you see when you hover over the 'My Articles'? It should be http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/list_articles.asp?userid=3933 which seems to work fine. cheers, Chris Maunder Re: Toolbox needs repair! Andreas Saurwein18-Dec-02 3:15 Andreas Saurwein 18-Dec-02 3:15  Link was correct. Just didnt return any results. Maybe I just caught it when the DB was too busy once more? I don't think this is a serious possesion, and the evil most likely comes from your hand. Colin J Davies, The Lounge Offer a webspace for development teams... Ray Cassick11-Dec-02 10:50 Ray Cassick 11-Dec-02 10:50  Just like GotDotNet does BUT BETTER... Have it WORK! Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Non-programming related discussions & WhoIsWho Kant9-Dec-02 12:17 Kant 9-Dec-02 12:17  1. I think the following boards needs to be moved to "Non-programming related discussions" Work Issues / Certification / Resumes Collaboration / Testing Article Requests and Ideas General Discussions 2. If you visit WhoisWho page [^] Messages Posted (while logged in) "xx" It shows all messages count. Instead of this, there needs to be two types of filtering Programming Messages Posted (while logged in) Non-Programming Messages Posted (while logged in) By this we can weigh the particular person's strength. We ever answered more questions should be given extra points (towards the Medals), as a token of appreaciation. Kant Sonork-100.28114 Re: Non-programming related discussions & WhoIsWho Rage10-Dec-02 0:05 Rage 10-Dec-02 0:05  Kant wrote: By this we can weigh the particular person's strength Yes, but you can answer crap to a lot of programming questions, thus not be strengthful, and get a good medal. But I agree, this could be a solution if people play the game, as usual. ~RaGE(); Re: Non-programming related discussions & WhoIsWho Kant10-Dec-02 8:52 Kant 10-Dec-02 8:52  Yes, but you can answer crap to a lot of programming questions, thus not be strengthful, and get a good medal. But I agree, this could be a solution if people play the game, as usual. Instead of medals, It's better to give something like MVP title or Code Project Guru Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure. Re: Non-programming related discussions & WhoIsWho ColinDavies10-Dec-02 9:35 ColinDavies 10-Dec-02 9:35  I probably answer more non programming qu's by a large factor. And now when I do answer programming Qu's I use a dummy account. The reason being : reception of a lot of unsolicited emails requesting homework to be done. etc. I know a couple of other CPians get the same. Regardz Colin J Davies Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me. Unanswered questions Rage9-Dec-02 0:35 Rage 9-Dec-02 0:35  Hi, we had a discussion last week about the possibility of showing only unanswered questions in the different forums. (I didi not follow it till the end and couldn't find it back by searching in the lounge, so it is possible that my post does not make sense ). The problem with it is that even question with several answer posts did not eventualy find THE answer. So what i propose is to allow the poster of the question (or someone else) to set a flag when his question has been answered, and to allow everybody to only show the questions which did not have this flag. ~RaGE(); Re: Unanswered questions Nitron9-Dec-02 4:01 Nitron 9-Dec-02 4:01  I concur. I just scrolled through to August the other day and answered a few stragglers... It would be nice for all if the unanswered had their place. - Nitron "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb Re: Unanswered questions Paul Watson11-Dec-02 3:52 Paul Watson 11-Dec-02 3:52  Rage wrote: to set a flag when his question has been answered, and to allow everybody to only show the questions which did not have this flag. Agreed. An extra idea to this would be that the original poster clicks a "Did this post answer your question?" button/link. That way you get the "Question Is Answered" data and the system can track who most often answers the thread correctly. Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Christopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately) Increasing Article Quality [James Pullicino]8-Dec-02 22:42 [James Pullicino] 8-Dec-02 22:42  All those people who expressed concern over article quality should get together and write an article that will explain basic article good practices. This article will help people author high quality articles by explaining certain basics such as the importance of source code in an article, the importance of presentation and good grammer etc... I would have found such a document very useful myself. Drinking In The Sun Forgot Password? Re: Increasing Article Quality Michael P Butler8-Dec-02 23:33 Michael P Butler 8-Dec-02 23:33  A set of writers guidelines would probably be a good idea, although I think the current guidelines on http://www.codeproject.com/info/submit.asp[^] are quiet comprehensive. Maybe something like Please take care with spelling and punctuation. Even if your article is wonderful, errors are a distraction and do not create a good impression. Watch out especially for its/it's, your/you're and there/their/they're. could be added. I'm sure there must be a good grammar/writing guide on the internet the site could link to. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen Re: Increasing Article Quality ColinDavies10-Dec-02 9:12 ColinDavies 10-Dec-02 9:12  Michael P Butler wrote: I'm sure there must be a good grammar/writing guide on the internet the site could link to. Agreed !! Regardz Colin J Davies Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me. Re: Increasing Article Quality Shog910-Dec-02 9:41 Shog9 10-Dec-02 9:41  Michael P Butler wrote: I'm sure there must be a good grammar/writing guide on the internet the site could link to. How 'bout: The Elements of Style[^] Guide to Grammar and Style[^] --- Shog9 This is my December These are my snow covered dreams This is me pretending This is all I need... Re: Increasing Article Quality Michael P Butler10-Dec-02 22:19 Michael P Butler 10-Dec-02 22:19  Shog9 wrote: The Elements of Style[^] I have the book at home, excellent link. Probably one on the best books on grammar that I've read. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen Re: Increasing Article Quality Jörgen Sigvardsson14-Dec-02 11:09 Jörgen Sigvardsson 14-Dec-02 11:09  Michael P Butler wrote: Watch out especially for its/it's, your/you're and there/their/they're. When I wrote my masters dissertation, my local university grammar nazi refused contractions. He insisted on "it is", "you are", etc. I hated it then, but when I think about it, it looks more proper if words aren't contracted. u, 4, r, and the rest of the elite vocabulary should definately be banned! -- Only in a world this sh*tty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face. Articles Like NASDAQ Nitron8-Dec-02 10:47 Nitron 8-Dec-02 10:47  Don't take me the wrong way, but there have been many a sub-standard article lately IMO. I am not an elitest nor a c++ demigod, but I do believe even simple topics deserve quality articles. I think if an artical cannot maintain above a rating of 2.0 (or whatever) for some set amount of time (2 weeks to a month or so) it should be respectfully removed. This may already be the case, for rarely do I see un-edited articles below 2.0. The articles that have been edited and placed in a proper spot are usually all excellent articles. However, I don't think some of the ones that seemingly get "dumped" to CP deserve the disk space. Anyway, just a thought. - Nitron "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb Something has got to change David Wulff8-Dec-02 14:28 David Wulff 8-Dec-02 14:28  I typed this out then came here to post it, only to find Nitron has picked up on the same vibes too... Whether or not there are genuinely more crap (I'm sorry but that is the right word) articles appearing of late, or whether they are just picked up on more frequently I don't know, but something has got to change because a feeling like that is very easily picked up on and carried around. Reputations are hard earned and easy lost, and if current happenings are the way of the future then CP is going to have a hard one. We must remember that not everybody comes to CP to jump straight in with the community (I know I didn't) - that comes with time when you've spent many weeks reading through the incredible wealth of information that is always available here on CodeProject, and is still appearing at a good rate. But if people's first impressions are blurred by sub standard material it will be ahrd to take that first image away from them. I don't know if anyone has picked up on this but these past few months I've noticed significantly less new people actively participating in the free-topic forums like the Lounge, SoapBox, and General Discussions. I know I don't know every active community member, but I am clicking less and less new profiles now to find out about names I don't recognise. Could people be using this site like, say, a builetin board and merely asking their questions and moving away? Maybe the community side has reached it's equillibrium, but that signal could equally be a sign that something is wrong. I personally would hate to see the community side settle stagnate where it is - I think the unique mix of nationalities, personalities and views floating around amongst our active members all linked by one common interest is truely wonderful, but we still have a lot of room to grow. Maybe creating a few more free-topic forums, say one for sports and one for serious discussions, could be created? Some people may not feel like they can contribute anything worthwhile to the community areas because they are lost so quickly (and that simply isn't true: I've been posting utter crap for three years and no-ones gotten *too* upset yet). What can be done to improve the image without disencouraging those who want to submit real quality articles? Should each article go through a basic peer-review before it is made visible? (This would take enormous resources). Should unedited articles be more clearly identified as unedited (e.g. different coloured text or hilighting)? Maybe new unedited articles could go through a probationary period of, say, one week where Silver+ members can vote to have it removed (like Nitron suggested)? Maybe we need something to kick the existing community into helping with the article sifting? The editors do a great job, but how about having more sub editors - there are loads of people here who are extremely knowledgable in odd little areas of topics and technologies who could take some of the heat off of the main editors. I don't know the answer - I haven't got years of exeprience running such a complex site with such a unique mix of visitors, and who knows maybe I have picked up on the wrong vibes here, but to me it clear: something has got to change before it gets out of hand. Nip it in the bud, so to speak. David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk Live for today and die tomorrow. Re: Something has got to change Shog98-Dec-02 16:28 Shog9 8-Dec-02 16:28  Yeah. What David said. Just like that, that's how it is. Ditto. --- Shog9 This is my December These are my snow covered dreams This is me pretending This is all I need... Re: Something has got to change David Wulff8-Dec-02 17:18 David Wulff 8-Dec-02 17:18  I am *so* tempted to have that as my permanent sig. David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk Yeah. What David said. Just like that, that's how it is. Ditto. - Shog. Re: Something has got to change Shog98-Dec-02 19:17 Shog9 8-Dec-02 19:17  ROTFL! Well i guess that's one way to get quoted... --- Shog9 This is my December These are my snow covered dreams This is me pretending This is all I need... Re: Something has got to change Michael P Butler8-Dec-02 23:21 Michael P Butler 8-Dec-02 23:21  David Wulff wrote: Maybe creating a few more free-topic forums, say one for sports and one for serious discussions, could be created? But CP is a site about programming, the lounge and the soapbox are there for us to do our "water cooler chat" with like minded people. Adding extra forums will just dilute the meaning of CP. I think the 'slush pile' of new articles created by the wizard should have to be reviewed before appearing on the front page. (They would still be available in the approriate sections, until rejected by an editor) Maybe as others have suggested we need a group of article reviewers (like publishing houses/movie industry have readers) who don't actually edit the articles but can decide whether or not the article is of any value. The reviewers need to be selected from article authors who have published 5+ edited articles. This will help keep a good quality control whilst hopefully keeping the ego factor under control. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen

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