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Sean/Chris,
There are a lot of non-english posts in this article messages;
Farsi Library - Working with Dates, Calendars, and DatePickers[^]
and i have seen another couple come through this morning, they read okay going through Google Translate, but what stance should we be taking. i.e. just block them, or allow them through or what?
We should not be needing to copy and paste into GT to check them. Looking at the article, some of the non-english go back to earlier this year.
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I have let two through too.
In my opinion, as far as they just remain in that article... I have no problem with them. At the end is a very specific content and it seems logical that many locals are interested on it.
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Nelek wrote: I have let two through too.
So it was you! I wondered where they went..........
The only problem is, when 1 starts, they all start and then it becomes unmanageable. The site is an english speaking site. It doesn't take long to snowball out of control.
Unless CP of course implements auto translation on the post using the Translate APIs, then it would save some hassle!
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2 Points:
1) I used the "go to Forum" widget on the filtered mask. I saw what it was and that 98% of the posts in that article are writen in non-english language.
Then I decided to let them through due to the reasons I already said before.
2) Even if it were to another forum or to the QA... they are not spam, so I would still have let them through because I don't want the spam filter to be confused. Then, I would have gone to the message and said "This is an english site" and reported the message locally, but I repeat: I think that clicking on "reject" in the spam filter for such messages is a bad idea.
If CP Staff has another opinion... then I am open to "reeducation"
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I'm not criticizing you!
I agree that the spam filter rejection is the wrong place.
I am just looking for the appropriate guidance on what our stance should be......i.e. let them through then report them for 'abuse' at the message level, or let them through and then ignore them.
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I believe the official stance is that the site is english, but I can't find a proper link for that.
So I guess we have to ask @chris-maunder for advice.
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DaveAuld wrote: I'm not criticizing you! I know... sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I was just explaining what I did to debate it as a possible action path
DaveAuld wrote: I am just looking for the appropriate guidance on what our stance should be......i.e. let them through then report them for 'abuse' at the message level, or let them through and then ignore them. in this very specific case, user speaking in the native language of the author and (actually) the main content of the article... I would say (personal opinion), yes... we can ignore them. Check for spam OK, but not nuke the message if clean / legitime question to the author.
If it was abusive, I guess the author would complain for himself
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Your comment "The only problem is, when 1 starts, they all start and then it becomes unmanageable" is spot on, but I tend to agree with letting this one go for now because it is specifically aimed at a non-English culture.
The Google translate API is definitely a possibility...
cheers
Chris Maunder
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With a name like that it's almost a pity to report.
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Terminal kick to the "testos" delivered.
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We've made a couple of changes to the spam filter that are aimed at providing more separation between "definitely spam" and "possibly spam". A small change to the tokeniser and a large change to the scoring system. On top of this, as you may have noticed, the spam filter now has sharper teeth. Do not be alarmed if you see spammers and spam disappear a little quicker. Do be alarmed, and please alert us, if you see legitimate accounts being closed. This shouldn't happen unless someone's being a little persistent, but shouldn't != never.
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Should we tell you with messages getting filtered that should very obviously not be there? Or just click the "OK" is enough?
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NO need - we'll be watching everything today. But thanks for the offer - very much appreciated.
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Chris Maunder
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Ok... don't worry, there haven't be so much (only saw 2 in the whole day)
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Think it needs more tweaking then, going by the list I dropped this morning.
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