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There's no remedy for that situation. A customer looking at costs above all else (i.e. quality) surely won't accept a rewrite for the sake of code quality because a rewrite is a year or so (estimate from my own work, yours may vary) with bills to pay but no new features or bugfixes (granted, a rewrite may remove some old bugs, but may just as well introduce new).
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Member 9167057 wrote: a rewrite is a year or so (estimate from my own work, yours may vary) with bills to pay but no new features or bugfixes (granted, a rewrite may remove some old bugs, but may just as well introduce new).
We have 20 ASP.Net WebForm apps that we maintain right now. With regards to login/registration/environment/layout, they all work the same. At that point, they diverge into their specific domains. Beginning in February (and on my own time at home), I started writing a new MVC5 template that we can use as a jumping off point for rewrites. All of the shared functionality has been implemented, saving months of dev time. At least the various devs can concentrate ion their apps' content instead of also having to deal with the tedium of common infrastucture stuff. Some of the apps are small enough that they can be re-written in a matter of a few weeks.
In order to pull off a re-write, the team has to be deep enough to be able to withstand carving one/two people off to do the the new stuff, while having enough sufficiently skilled devs maintaining the soon-to-be-legacy code.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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this thread has me thinking about game development.
Duke Nukem Forever had some blame toward 'lets change to a newer game engine (many other issues but this sticks out)
Open worlds where I often think, wow, looks great, why don't they reuse 90% and make a different story. IE spider-man ps4 2018, replace with another marvel character. change some physics, spend some time on new mechanics, make it for a fraction of the cost?
But alias, most end up having the some of the large parts redone to meet the Next New Thing.
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When I studied for my computer science degree, it was all about computer science. When I studied for my business degree, it was all about business. The concepts of this post are a lot bit of both.
When I look at this post the first thing that comes to my mind is, how long does your code base need to survive? Are we looking at an application with a lifespan of 5 years, 20, 30? I do a lot of government work and see the last two numbers quite a bit, whether by planning or just the arena. I will focus just on the 5 years. Name a technology that was the new thing 5 years ago, is it still around? If you based you new application on it 5 years ago and it is, great, but you still have to rewrite as you are now at end-of-life. If the stack isn't still around, now you have a product that has either been rewritten a couple of times, or is in sore need of a rewrite now. What is the cost of that? What is your ROI? TCO? Basically what is the true cost of using that stack for 5 years. That is the business end of it.
Developers, we tend to look at, oh here is a new shiny toy and I want to use it. Meanwhile your boss is saying, no it will be too expensive. "Keeping up" is a game of chasing the shiny new toy, regardless of business cost. Short term that may be great, long term that can be very expensive. Always "keeping up" HAS a significant cost to a business. Not having a stable framework for more than 6 months, HAS a significant cost. Always "keeping up" can be so expensive that a company goes under for no reason other than "keeping up". I have never been a person willing to follow the trends. I find a stack that works, can be maintained and will last a significant amount of time, and use that. I mean seriously wasn't Ruby on Rails supposed to completely change our industry (switch this out for one of hundreds of trends)?
To me the whole concept of "keeping up" smells of a junior or mid-level developer who hasn't stopped and stepped back, to look at the picture of a whole business and ONLY cares about code. Without a business, there is no code, if chasing a new shiny object can't support a business, it shouldn't be done period. Moving to updating frameworks and code in a way that supports a business and is done in a cost effective way, is what a senior developer should have in his mind. You have to support the business and they will support you.
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"Workplaces" -- I keep thinking this is referring to, well, the workplace. You know. Office. Cubicle. Windows. Water cooler.
When did this word get hijacked to mean whatever the hell it means in that post?
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It's part of the UN's Agenda 21, and is the major cause of global warming.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Amid soaring demand for enterprise mobile and Web apps and scarce dev talent, delivery times often average more than 4 months, says a new survey from low-code tooling vendor OutSystems. That's because you have to change your web framework monthly (at least)
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Is it just me, or does four months not seem all that long for a potentially complex application that presumably needs testing, documentation, and some kind of support services to be put in place.
How long should an app take to develop? How long is a piece of string, I suppose.
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Quote: "Our 2019 survey shows that many IT departments are facing a multitude of disruptive forces when it comes to digital transformation and application development,” said exec Steve Rotter in a statement. “The threat of digital disruption and the need for digital transformation has been a driver of IT strategy for years. Add to that the current uncertain global economic outlook, and it becomes obvious why business leaders are so concerned about agility today.” Eh? Am I just incredibly dense or is that just a word salad?
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I think it sort of makes sense, albeit in a consult-speak sort of way...
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"said exec Steve Rotter" - that's how execs talk - lots of words, no actionable info.
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A new invention uses magnets to record computer data which consume virtually zero energy, solving the dilemma of how to create faster data processing speeds without high energy costs. Magnets. How the frek do they work?
Of course, the article doesn't seem to mention him retrieving the data from the magnet.
Then again, the title says that it was 'Virutally energy-free', not 'virtually'. So maybe it's an adverb appropriately describing the energy use.
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Like that strip from "B.C." where the dialog runs something like: (quoted from memory)
- My brother has invented a vehicle that runs on water.
- That sounds really great! What does he call it?
- A rowboat
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Organizations need to optimize application development productivity by empowering professional developers and citizen developers simultaneously. Someone has to fix the ad hoc solutions
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WTF is a "citizen developer"?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Amir Golestan of South Carolina is alleged to have tricked an organisation that controls some net addresses into handing them over. Brilliant plan thwarted - stuff 750000 IP addresses into your pants and leave the store.
I'm not sure what the end goal was here - did he think they weren't going to figure it out and shut him down?
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Google claims the little-known web tool keeps data private When did I buy a bale of catnip and 23 rubber mice?
"You don't have any purchases". Well, it doesn't seem to find everything.
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Linksys said it fixed flaw in 2014. Researcher Troy Mursch disagrees. "Imagine all the people, sharing all the world"
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A new "demographic inference" tool developed by academics can make predictions based solely on the information in a person's social media profile (i.e. screen name, biography, profile photo, and name). I guess that saves you from reading their profile?
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Based on the headline, that could be done with a few lines of code. Further, it can predict age and gender based on nothing at all.
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Big deal. Without knowing anything whatsoever about a person, I can predict their gender with 50% accuracy!
From the fact that they have a Twitter account, I can predict whether their IQ is above or below the 50th percentile with almost 100% accuracy!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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He’s a witch! Burn him!
TTFN - Kent
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Age - don't they get that from the birth date field?
Gender - First, I'm really surprised the liberals allowed this to happen, given the three dozen genders are now available to choose from, and second, technologically, this is an impressive accomplishment given the number of semi-offically recognized genders there are available to pick from.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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it sure does give wrong results too...
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Kent Sharkey wrote: from just your Twitter profile
Good luck with that!
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