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Hi,
First of all, thanks for the site. It would be very very difficult for me (and for many people) to learn how to do things correctly without your help and all the people that contribute here.
I would like to propose one thing. When one is reading an article, one has the possibility to add comments, ask things, etc... below the article. To navigate in this "posts" there are three buttons: "First", "Prev", "Next". But...
How about a "Last" button?
The post is organized with the newest messages first and the oldest at the end. Personally, I find better to start with the oldest message, because the problems are most of the times before the solutions and it is possible to find the same problem that one is having in those posts.
To go to the oldest... it is necessary to go through all the pages (some articles have a lot of pages), and then to come back to the beggining another time as the messages are being read.
Because of that I would like to ask the site-admins to add the "last" link-button to the template of articles' sites.
That's all.
Thanks a lot
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M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Maybe we should add an option to order the messages oldest to newest.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Nothing much to say, really. My opinion is that moderation will make the forums (programming forums) a better place.
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Shog on learning VB6: Ah, that would have been VB6. Kicked my ass anyway.
So easy to learn, just like falling down a flight of stairs...
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I think the forums can look out for themselves. Look at what we have survived so far - kyle, link2006, jeremy, etc., etc. The forums are still healthy, and we always have the Abuse button, and there's always the Court of Last Resort (aka email Chris).
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Hans Dietrich wrote: survived so far - kyle, link2006, jeremy, etc
Wow, why did you lump Jeremy (I assume your referencing Jeremy Falcon) in with those two others?
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I listed some of the people whose posts - in my opinion - were "off message", relative to what this site is about. Trying to carry on an adult conversation, and being repeatedly sidetracked into "what is appropriate" discussions, is not being on message, IMHO.
I think the forums were doing a good job of absorbing his rants (before he left). As a positive side note, I have seen time and again that some members (not heard from in a while) will speak up when a post crosses the lunacy/drivel boundary.
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Hans Dietrich wrote: I listed some of the people whose posts - in my opinion - were "off message",
Look I for one didn't agree with Jeremy’s tactics but that doesn’t mean he was wrong trying to do the honorable thing.
Hans Dietrich wrote: As a positive side note, I have seen time and again that some members (not heard from in a while) will speak up when a post crosses the lunacy/drivel boundary.
Yea that’s what he did, except just a little louder. 
FWIW, I didn’t vote on your post.
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Very good question!
Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir?
Dr.Brad :Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.
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presumably because of the histrionics that he went through when leaving.
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You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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i don't agree fully. as I already said in the lounge, such bad guys are pulling the forums quality down.
i can understand the need of moderators, like i understand those who don't want any.
in this, i think "moderator" is a term that means too much power into the hands of a single body. but what if this leads into something constructive though ?
for my part, the only sysAdmin should remain Chris, but brahmma's idea interrests me in the sense that i think we could use of some "forums editors".
those guys would be responsible of putting those bloddy <pre> tags around code samples posted as is, move some threads to the right forums, mark a post as repost/cross-post/abuse for deletion (note that i don't give them the power of deleting posts by themselves, but why not after all).
those editors would not be responsible of making the police on their forums.
and as they might have a level high enough, not anyone could obtain this status.
i propose that MVP members and/or protectors could do this job. or only the SysAdmin could choose who deserves the status...
what you think ?
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Well put. That is what actually I had in my mind. With the overwhelming number of posts that are omnipresent (some will ask it almost in all the forums, no matter what kinda question it is); while some other will have source code with HTML tags swallowed by the browser  . The idea of moderation is nice; IMO it will certainly increase the quality of the forums. But it is completely up to the Sys Admin to decide.
"Hmmm, I wonder if this guy knows about the VCF?
That's what all the cool programmers are using according to Jenna Jameson." - Jim Crafton.
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toxcct wrote: what you think ?
just for the one who votes anonymously...
"what you think" means also give your personal thinking on what you agree or what you - obviously - disagree, not only act like a lazy child. i was being the more objective as i could, and seing that some don't agree with such an important topic without argueing is particularly disapointing
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toxcct wrote: just for the one who votes anonymously...
The voting system is there for a reason. If someone votes your post a 1, it usually means he disagrees with what you posted. I don't see why you expect everyone who votes on your posts to have to explain why they disagree.
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toxcct wrote: those guys would be responsible of putting those bloddy <pre> tags around code samples posted as is, move some threads to the right forums, mark a post as repost/cross-post/abuse for deletion (note that i don't give them the power of deleting posts by themselves, but why not after all).
Naw. It's a frickin' threaded web-based forum system. You click, you type, you preview, you type some more, when it looks right you post. People who can't figure that out aren't gonna do well with their coding either. What, really, do we have to gain by babying other programmers?
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i hope you are feeling sleepy for people not calling you by the same.
--BarnaKol on abusive words
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Hans Dietrich wrote: kyle, link2006, jeremy, etc.
Yeah I can find the odd man out. : Jeremy. 
Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir?
Dr.Brad :Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.
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what abt VUNIC
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
cheers,
Alok Gupta
VC Forum Q&A :- I/ IV
Support CRY- Child Relief and You
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Opinions are neither right nor wrong
Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir?
Dr.Brad :Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.
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brahmma wrote: Nothing much to say, really. My opinion is that moderation will make the forums (programming forums) a better place.
Don't get me wrong, but to me you are as responsible for the totally off-topic sub-thread as that other guy. Instead of taking your arguments with him offline, you persisted in abusing the VC++ board.
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The five vote given to you by someone suggests that there are others too who think I have a mistake in my part. In that case, please accept my apologies. My intention was really not to abuse the board, but I wanted to correct him, in which I failed miserably. I usually don't get into such arguments, but this is it.
Shog on learning VB6: Ah, that would have been VB6. Kicked my ass anyway.
So easy to learn, just like falling down a flight of stairs...
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brahmma wrote: In that case, please accept my apologies.
Hey, please don't apologize to me - I just expressed my opinion.
brahmma wrote: My intention was really not to abuse the board, but I wanted to correct him, in which I failed miserably. I usually don't get into such arguments, but this is it.
Yes, your good intentions were clear. It's just that you got frustrated after a while and from then on, the rest of the thread served to help nobody. It was just an exercise in wasting time and possibly bandwidth
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Have the rules for the monthly competition changed? This time, updated articles have also been included - which means many of the entries in the competition are 2-3 years old.
I think the old format was better where only new articles submitted in that specific month are included in the voting.
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Thank you. That was a quick response
I hope you reset the votes too, so people can vote again.
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New infrastructure + insufficient caffeine = bug.
My fault guys - sorry about that. Everything's been reset to 0 and new voting forms created.
I promise I will drink more coffee today.
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Chris Maunder wrote: New infrastructure + insufficient caffeine = bug.
You gotta start drinking more Red Bull. A Red Bull should be worth 4-5 coffees.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: You gotta start drinking more Red Bull.
I had my first Red Bull the other day. I nearly spit it out. I couldn't believe it was supposed to taste that bad. Maybe you're supposed to add something to it before drinking? 
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